Pit Bull Discussion
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westcoastchameleons
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Not my expierience. My girl is amazing, to EVRYONE. She is also a blue nose.
I am sorry to here about yours though
Jake
m1ndless
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I knew other people with Pits, they were never this bad, I think ours just had problems, we have owned tons of dogs so it's not like we didn't know what we were doing, she was just untrainabl, we tried and tried for 3 years, then she attacked a family member pretty bad and that was the tipping point.
Will Hayward
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This is not the correct thread to discuss Pitbull personality. This day and time, it's impossible for anyone interested in keeping Pitbulls to not know about their generally flawed characteristic. As with many exotic pets (snakes, crocs, spiders, etc), their are potential dangers involved, but it does not make them any less of a pet, or potential member of a family, just one that demands more safety, understanding and respect.
Good luck finding a good home.
To discuss Pitbulls a new thread can be opened in the correct forum.
Good luck finding a good home.
To discuss Pitbulls a new thread can be opened in the correct forum.
Dean Pulcini
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I guess its like everything else in life got to take the good with the bad.
davider
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Owners are to blame for their dogs, Pit Bulls are sweet and affectionate animals. And please don't dispute about the breed, this is a for sale ad. Thank you.
CammieNLeno
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mindless - That is quite possibly the most ignorant post I have come acrosse so far on this forum. A dogs personality is 100% reflective on its owner. If you had a problem with her agression, you clearly neglected her and have no business owning her to begin with. Sorry it didnt work out, but your comment really bothers me.
Julirs
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Whoa-100% reflective on it's owner???? Absolutley not true. It is entirely possible that something was wrong with that dog. The best trainers in the world may have been defeated. Now, I am not familiar with the dog, or how it was trained or handled, but you just cannot make a statement like that about animals or even people. Case in point....sitting next to me is Ross the English Bulldog. I picked Ross out at 2 days old, had weekly visitation until bringing him home at 9 weeks, and he was raised with my 3 kids that were 2,5 and 8 at the time. My kids were extremely respectful of dogs, I was raised in a home of show and obedience trained Bearded Collies, and both kids and Ross were highly adult supervised at all times. At about 6 months old Ross decided that he would hate, kill, and eat all kids other than mine. Now, for 10 years we have managed to keep Ross very separate from the kid population with no issues, and as Ross is now blind he is no longer a threat. But no amount of training convinced him that kids were not a tasty snack. He has always been fine with teenagers and adults of any kind. As for Pit Bulls, they often have a high prey and dog-aggression side, but so can many other dogs. I have a 10 year old Pit-Lab mix that is friendly as all can be, but would probably eat a small dog, or happily fight with another. No dog park for her. Many, many well behaved Pits go to the dog park, and many poorly raised Pits with less than intelligent owners. Just ask Mike my Great Dane puppy that was savagely attacked by a Pit/Shepard mix in January requring 7 staples to the thigh. Bad owners, and an aggressive dog possibly with little to no training or simply a highly aggressive dog-who is to say? Look at the animal shelters, if Pits were an easily trained dog, there would not be shelters full of them in every city.
bg77
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I would like to put my 2 cents in. Pitbulls are no way are anymore aggressive than any other breed. You just dont hear about the other breeds being as aggressive. Years ago people had problems with Rotts, and before then Dobermans, and before them, yadda yadda yadda....This comes from about 18 years of being around all different breeds of animals. You know what the number 1 size muzzled used in veterinary clinics is????????????? Anyone?????
SMALL, now I must say that Pitbulls do not wear small muzzles. Shoot I have a corgi, Boxer, and a poodle and take a guess at which one is the aggressor??? The Poodle. There are more small breeds of animals that are much more aggresive than a pittbull, but when these small dogs attack they do not get all the attention that a larger dog does, why is that?
SMALL, now I must say that Pitbulls do not wear small muzzles. Shoot I have a corgi, Boxer, and a poodle and take a guess at which one is the aggressor??? The Poodle. There are more small breeds of animals that are much more aggresive than a pittbull, but when these small dogs attack they do not get all the attention that a larger dog does, why is that?
angus310
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They get the attention because bad owners are drawn to them b/c they are really tough, strong dogs. As well, their ability to create extreme damage on others can only be matched by several other breeds.
I had a pitbull that was really nice and was trained well. As well, my old dog got tore up by one and I had to spend thousands of dollars because it ripped out his salivary gland. The truth is that when you come across a bad one, they can seriously hurt kids, other dogs and people more so than a poodle.
bg77
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Exactly, cause they are bigger and more intimidating. Yes they can do alot of damage. It is a dog, a living animal. The dam thing has a mind of its own. Pit bulls are not BAD. It is not a bad breed.
Kent67
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I read a long, very well-written article in our local weekly by a guy who owned a pit that was the most loving, well-trained, affectionate dog "ever." Several pages were devoted to what a friendly, loving, companion he was. The end of the story was about how his kind, friendly dog, jumped out the car window while the owner was stopped at a light, grabbed a small leashed dog by the neck and killed it while the smaller dog's owner watched in horror. By the time the author of the article got out of his car and to the sidewalk, his dog was holding the smaller dead dog in his jaws happily wagging his tail as if to say, "Look what I caught! Let's play with it!" The pit bull had never shown any dog-aggression prior. He was euthanized.
I know someone who has a pitbull that is one of the most well-trained dogs of any breed I've ever seen. He just told me his dog's mother and father got into a scrap with one of the littermates trying to intervene. All three dogs were ripped to shreds and with the surprise aggression they all showed, were euthanized.
There are multiple breeds that have been bred for fighting. It IS part of their nature. Does that mean it can't be controlled? No. But any owner of a fighting breed must be aware of the potential, if they truly care about being responsible. I live several blocks from a dog beach and a dog park, in different directions. It has been my experience that a large percentage of the people who take pitbulls to public dog parks like these, seem to be looking for trouble with their little status symbols and often find it.
I know someone who has a pitbull that is one of the most well-trained dogs of any breed I've ever seen. He just told me his dog's mother and father got into a scrap with one of the littermates trying to intervene. All three dogs were ripped to shreds and with the surprise aggression they all showed, were euthanized.
There are multiple breeds that have been bred for fighting. It IS part of their nature. Does that mean it can't be controlled? No. But any owner of a fighting breed must be aware of the potential, if they truly care about being responsible. I live several blocks from a dog beach and a dog park, in different directions. It has been my experience that a large percentage of the people who take pitbulls to public dog parks like these, seem to be looking for trouble with their little status symbols and often find it.
KevinA
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Sorry but thats kind of an ignorant statment.
My pitt is not flawed by any means, shes perfect for what she was bread for.
There is a statement. Like any animal you choose to take in, you must be responsible for it's behavior. The excuse that it never happened before is B.S. You need to be prepared for anything.
Most of the statements made against the breed ere are kind of ignorant. Many breeds of dogs show aggression, jump out of windows ect. Heck, I was waliking my pit and saw a beagle jump out of a moving car and went after a squirl. If it was fast enough, it would have killed the squirl and held it in it's mouth wagging its tail.
My dog is one of the best behaved and affectionate dogs in my neighborhood! I am also the person who has the most control over their dog in my neighborhood. I laugh when the pack of 4 white fluffy dogs gang up on mine. Mine did't even do anything till one grabbed hold of her ear. She just put it to the ground and left it after that. Didt rip it to shreads or anything.
Make know mistake though, if I tell her to/let her, my pitt will tear someone up. But she is completely under my control and sweet natured unless I am in danger.
And thats how it should be.
I think my next dog will be a Dogo Argentino or a Cane Corso. -> Talk about killer dogs !
m1ndless
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Owners? No. It was the dog.
This dog was untrainable, we have owned many dogs (~11) and it's not like we did not know what we what we are doing.
I have owned boxers, dobermans, rotts, great danes, choclate labs, and a few huskies, we know how to own and train big/agressive dogs.
There could have been something mentally wrong with this dog, we really had no way to truley tell.
Either way, I have never met a nice pitbull, they are born to be agressive guard dogs, they are NOT a family pet in anyway.
The only good thing about Pits is the money you can make off of breeding them.
I think Pits should be outlawed in the states.
KevinA
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I think you should be outlawed in the states for spreading misinformation LolOwners? No. It was the dog.
This dog was untrainable, we have owned many dogs (~11) and it's not like we did not know what we what we are doing.
Just because you've had x dog or y dog doesn't mean your prepared for z dog. The way I read your story it sounded like you did not have control over the dog. Dogs aren't super maniacal assasains. They have a social structure and a way to communicate and co-exist. As a dog owner you need to establish your self as a leader. Alpha dogs don't tolorate aggression among subordinate dogs much. Sounds like you either did not know hoi to correctly raise a bully breed or you had a dog that had a mental disability/impairment which is common in many breeds.
I have owned boxers, dobermansthese have been bred down and are mostly not considered to be agressive by nature anymore, rottsthis is a cattle dog, not an agressive dog, great danes this is a mix between a mastiff and a greyhound and not considered to be aggressice by nature, choclate labsKiller dog, and a few huskies, we know how to own and train big/agressive dogs.
There could have been something mentally wrong with this dog, we really had no way to truley tell.
thats a fair statement.
Either way, I have never met a nice pitbull, they are born to be agressive guard dogs, they are NOT a family pet in anyway. This is a completely false statement. Pitt Bulls, Stafferdshire terriers,staff. Bull terriers, and american staff terriers were bred to have a high prey drive and be friendly with humans. How do you think pitt fights worked. Dog fighters wanted a dog that would kick butt in the ring and when the fight was over they could retrieve their dog without getting killed. Sound like you really dont know your stuff.
The only good thing about Pits is the money you can make off of breeding them.
THere is no money in breeding pits really. Look in your classifieds. They are consistantly one of the cheepest dogs.
I think Pits should be outlawed in the states.
But seriously, Im not trying to start a fight with you about it or be unfriendly, but you made some bold statements that are incorrect, not fully supported ect so I had to fire back
Have a nice day.
m1ndless
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Incorrect? No. I think I knew my own fucking dog, thanks. It was untrainable, the vet suggested putting her down from 6 months old, but we couldn't, when she attacked out cousin (4 years old - 14 stiches) that was the last straw.
Like I said, there could have been something mentally wrong with our pit, but
My statements were fully supported by common knowledge, ask ANYONE on the streets if they think Pits are bad/agressive dogs and they will tell you yes.
m1ndless
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LIKE I SAID, I know how to train a dog, and this dog was untrainable, we tried everything, even professional trainers, nothing worked for this dog, she was stupid plain and simple.
I am truley amazed at some peoples ARROGANCE and IGNORANCE. It's so easy to know it all, isnt it kid?
Who do think you are? Seriously.
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