PLEASE HELP!! RED EYES! CHAM FELL!

sammnadine

sammnadine

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hi, so my chameleon Karma is almost a year old and she took a bit of a tumble today. she fell from the top of her enclosure to the bottom (about 1.5 feet) and she's been moving around and ate for me and drank but her eyes are strange. they were like this at first so i originally called the vet but it seemed to go away so i didn't go in. she won't stay still. keeps climbing on the cage. her one eye has cleared up but the other one occasionally is acting up. it seems to bulge as if she's cleaning it and then this happens. i've never seen it before and there's practically nothing about it online. should i be worried? please help.
i love her so much.
 

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Andee said:
Looks like some form of blood build up?
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that's exactly what i thought but it's not dripping or anything and it goes away. it only happens when she bulges her eye out so i'm not sure what it could be. i don't exactly have the money to spend at the vet however, if it comes down to her life. i'm willing to spend whatever it takes to make it so she's okay.
 
She may have broken a blood vessel that can only be seen when her eye is like that? Though I don't know for sure, I would definitely wait for someone else. I don't know if it's life threatening but if it's just a blood vessel I wouldn't think it would be.
 
Andee said:
She may have broken a blood vessel that can only be seen when her eye is like that? Though I don't know for sure, I would definitely wait for someone else. I don't know if it's life threatening but if it's just a blood vessel I wouldn't think it would be.
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I see the red part of my chameleons eye quite often when he is cleaning them.
 
It looks like she has an infection that is affecting the eyes. You can see the two abscesses between the eyes. I think that is the problem. A vet can clean those out for you and get you on the correct medication to fix that. The quicker the better as an infection in that region of the body can be tough if you don't get in front of it.
 
jpowell86 said:
It looks like she has an infection that is affecting the eyes. You can see the two abscesses between the eyes. I think that is the problem. A vet can clean those out for you and get you on the correct medication to fix that. The quicker the better as an infection in that region of the body can be tough if you don't get in front of it.
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what do you mean abscesses? where?
 
I agree with Joel, I can see the infection now that I've taken a longer look at it and the possible abscess. The infection definitely needs to be cleaned out by a vet. The bulge that is a physical different kind of line (don't know how to describe it right) you can see the difference closer to the edge of her eye by her nose, it looks like she might have some pus or something trapped in there
 
sammnadine said:
those are normal, she has had them since she was a baby. they're "horns", she's a female veiled chameleon. and the arrow you made to her eye, that's puffed out because she was cleaning her eye when i took the photo.
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the angle and flash of the photo also makes them look a lot bigger than they are.
 
Nursemaia said:
I would take their advice. @jpowell86 and @Andee are extremely knowledgeable.
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i get that and i would, however when i took her to the vet earlier in the year just for a check up, i asked if the bumps we normal because you don't see many female veiled chameleons with them so prominent and he told me that they are totally fine and they are nothing to worry about. and i can only see the red when she is cleaning her eye like that, which i haven't seen since i took the photo.
 
It's quite possible. Chams are excellent at encapsulating infection to where they remain asymptomatic. I'm not saying that is what she definitely has, I'm just saying don't rule it out either
 
sammnadine said:
those are normal, she has had them since she was a baby. they're "horns", she's a female veiled chameleon. and the arrow you made to her eye, that's puffed out because she was cleaning her eye when i took the photo.
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They're horns??? No, they are not horns. Veiled chameleons don't have horns.

They are not normal either. I also understand the motions of a chameleon cleaning out their eyes. She may have a large piece of debris in her eye that she has been unsuccessful in removing on her own. That could be a completely separate issue. The abscess may have been there a while. It could be that the abscess has walled off. There could be an issue in her sinus cavities. Either way, it is not normal and I am simply trying to help you identify an issue that you may not be able to see for yourself.

I have also included a pic of veiled chameleon's skulls so that you can see there is not a bony protrusion from the skull that would create these raised areas.

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Nursemaia said:
It's quite possible. Chams are excellent at encapsulating infection to where they remain asymptomatic. I'm not saying that is what she definitely has, I'm just saying don't rule it out either
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jpowell86 said:
They're horns??? No, they are not horns. Veiled chameleons don't have horns.

They are not normal either. I also understand the motions of a chameleon cleaning out their eyes. She may have a large piece of debris in her eye that she has been unsuccessful in removing on her own. That could be a completely separate issue. The abscess may have been there a while. It could be that the abscess has walled off. There could be an issue in her sinus cavities. Either way, it is not normal and I am simply trying to help you identify an issue that you may not be able to see for yourself.

I have also included a pic of veiled chameleon's skulls so that you can see there is not a bony protrusion from the skull that would create these raised areas.

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alright well i'll try to save up my money and bring her to the vet. thank you for your help
 
sammnadine said:
alright well i'll try to save up my money and bring her to the vet. thank you for your help
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It really shouldn't set you back that much honestly. My guess is that they will probably give her Baytril. But, one thing you need to make sure the vet understands, is that the pus that is over the sinuses is very thick. It needs to be removed before what ever antibiotic is given, so that it can be as effective as possible.

Many many years ago, I had a veiled that had an infection right atop the sinuses like your girl. It took me over a year to get rid of it. This is because the abscess was never opened and debrided. Once that was done, the medication fixed my issue in about a week give or take.
 
jpowell86 said:
It really shouldn't set you back that much honestly. My guess is that they will probably give her Baytril. But, one thing you need to make sure the vet understands, is that the pus that is over the sinuses is very thick. It needs to be removed before what ever antibiotic is given, so that it can be as effective as possible.

Many many years ago, I had a veiled that had an infection right atop the sinuses like you girl. It took me over a year to get rid of it. This is because the abscess was never opened and debrided. Once that was done, the medication fixed my issue in about a week give or take.
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i'll be sure to discuss it with her vet before proceeding with him! do you by any chance remember how much it cost you?
 
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