question about translucent chams

[alex arango]

hey everyone,
so i have done some reading about translucent "veileds" and looked up some pics on google but i couldnt find the answer to my question. what im woundering is, are veiled chameleons the only species that can be translucent?

 

[DekuScrub]

as far as im aware its the only species in which this recessive gene has been expressed.

with that said, i dont understand why people are even interested in the things. sure they are a novelty but nothing more.

im not a fan of how popular they have become, its disconcerting

 

[alex arango]

i understand where your coming from but personaly i think there pretty awesome, i understand its not a safe thing to do and could couse health probloms in the feature and ect. and that there colors are ment for comunicating with each other but who are they going to comunicate with if there housed seperatly?
also i read that the reason why some chams are translucent is because there parents are related? so if 2 vields that are related (bother and sister) and they are bred what are the chances that some of there babies are born translucent?

 

[camimom]

Id like to point out that at this time, there are no known health issues with translucents versus a regular veiled.
while their coloring is meant communicate, most of the transulcent markings stay on the legs, head and tail, and the body is used to communicate most color patterns anyway.

I have seen no documentation stating that a transulecent veiled is less healthy, or that the coloring causes any problems...

that being said, their coloring is not the only way they communicate. head bobbing, hissing, biting, inflating, deflating are all ways to communicate.

[not trying to start a debate, just dont want the OP to get the wrong impression]

 

[JackP308]

Id like to see pictures of several adults ? Anyone provide appreciated.

 

[Dmurray]

id also like to see this!!!!

 

[MamaD]

I have a translucent female. She is very shy so let me see if I can sneak a pic of her to post. I dont know this to be a fact,but from what little info I can find on them is that the translucent gene is not from inbreeding. More likely a genetic issue similar to albinism in other animals. I can only guess that in the wild they might not survive as well but do well in captivity. Again, just a guess. Not a big fan of them myself but to each his own. I think it's just a matter of preference.

 

[Carlton]

as far as im aware its the only species in which this recessive gene has been expressed.

Probably, because veileds are the only species that has been bred extensively enough in captivity for the recessive gene to start showing up and for breeders to start selecting for it. There's probably no way to know if other species can show the trait at least for now.

 

[alex arango]

i was reading a thread about different kinds of cham mutations, translucent veileds and other defects maybe i read wrong and got the wrong impression about what they were talking about and misunderstood. but i do remember someone mentioned that there translucent veiled is a product of inbreeding and niether of the parents were translucent thats why i ask. what are some methods that breeders use the get tranclucent vieldes?

 

[chameleongirl2]

as far as im aware its the only species in which this recessive gene has been expressed.

with that said, i dont understand why people are even interested in the things. sure they are a novelty but nothing more.

im not a fan of how popular they have become, its disconcerting

not a fan?! lol, not critisizing your opinion but i so am!! lololololol

 

[DekuScrub]

i was reading a thread about different kinds of cham mutations, translucent veileds and other defects maybe i read wrong and got the wrong impression about what they were talking about and misunderstood. but i do remember someone mentioned that there translucent veiled is a product of inbreeding and niether of the parents were translucent thats why i ask. what are some methods that breeders use the get tranclucent vieldes?

the recessive gene is going to be expressed more readily in populations that already have the gene. if you want to produce more chameleons with this trait, youll have to breed chameleons that are closely related to have a greater chance of getting offspring that exhibit this mutation.

not all offspring are going to exhibit this mutation. the possibility of this mutation being bred into chameleons without this gene is what frightens me. the fact that trans chams have become so popular makes it frighteningly likely this gene will find its way into healthy lines.

it becoming invasive in the captive bloodlines is the only thing if find mildly upsetting. well that and the fixation on its novelty... arent chameleons cool enough already without having to perpetuate these potentially detrimental traits. and in purchasing them promote inbreeding?

just sayin, i think they are cool. and if this gene occasionally arises randomly thats certainly cool. but specifically breeding for this trait could seriously compromise the integrity of captive populations.