Quick panther morph ID needed...PLEASE!

[gemmatony10]

Have been searching for a while now for a breeding pair of panthers, and stumbled across this guy below. All I know so far, is it's approx 12-18 months old, so am aware that the colour's may change as it grow's.

They are being offered to me as an Ambilobe's, but im almost certain that the male might be a Maroantsetra morph....if it is, I believe it is quite a rare find over here in Scotland

Heres a picture of the male

and here is the best link I can find to a Maroantsetra, you will need to click on the bottom row, 5th pic in http://www.chameleonsonly.com/index.php?p=gallery

also this one as well....again being sold as Ambilobe, 12-18 months

Any info at all would be fantastic, and the guy is awaiting my decition, and I dont want to lose out

thanks so much guys, Gemma.

 

[KTown333]

Humm wish I knew

 

[Sporkthedork]

The red and white male looks like either a St. Marie or Masoala:

http://www.captivebredreptileforums.co.uk/panther-locality-photo-id/

http://www.pardalis.be/masoala.htm

EDIT:
Forgot to add - Beautiful cham!

 

[robmd1]

id grab that red an white one while you can

 

[sdheli420]

ya go for the red and white its a moso..the lower pic looks ambilobe...

 

[Sporkthedork]

id grab that red an white one while you can

I second this suggestion!

 

[lisa h]

I'd grab the red and white soley based on looks. Having said that, if you want to breed, it is highly unlikely that you will find a female of the same locale. From what I understand they aren't easy to find. Good luck with your decision, and let us know what you choose!

 

[gemmatony10]

Wow thanks so much for the quick replys Here is a pic of the female that comes with him, they are being sold as a breeding pair, and he wont split them.

What do you guys think of her too do you's think ive found a little diamond in the rough then, hugs Gemma.

 

[robmd1]

Wow thanks so much for the quick replys Here is a pic of the female that comes with him, they are being sold as a breeding pair, and he wont split them.

What do you guys think of her too do you's think ive found a little diamond in the rough then, hugs Gemma.

if you ask me i say grab that pair fast. that ambilobe looks average so id go with the red an white pair, better act fast im sure they will go faster then the ambilobe

 

[gemmatony10]

Already done fingers crossed they are not away and are MINE ALL MINE lol

 

[lisa h]

Keep us posted! I hope the female is of the same locale as the male, but there's no way to know that, so the babies will have to be sold as crosses. That male though ... smokin'!