RescueMom
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I try to search the threads before I post a question, but I can't find any similar to this issue that started last Tuesday.
My Panther Snogzilla is almost a year old and I've had him since he was 4 months old. He has NEVER wanted to be handled, but he stopped the aggressive threatening behavior a long time ago. He eats from my hand and will climb onto my hand to get a feeder but doesn't want anything more to do with being handled. He has been out of his enclosure via a vine or a branch that goes to a tree by the window (with additional uvb lighting) but only a few times. Last Monday he attempted to climb out onto the door of his cage to reach the tree, but it was a no-go
I helped him to his tree, which he allowed in the extreme circumstance that it was 
Because he hardly ever gets out of his cage it's difficult to make any changes to his enclosure (plants were sparse, some branches to close together from him baby days and needed to be adjusted). I had managed to add a couple of plants a few days before. I've noticed that he doesn't like the leaves to touch him so if the vines are blocking his branches, even slightly, he won't walk on them.
While he was out of the cage last Monday I adjusted the branches and replaced a few small ones with thicker ones. I also put the grapevine branch in the bottom since it was bare and it took up the space nicely.
Tuesday he got up and went to a branch toward the back and stayed. His color was a really ugly light greenish grey with dark marks. He has been mostly this ugly, sick looking color for a week now. But that's not the strange part.
He will see something that he wants, like the branch that he used to climb out of the enclosure, and he'll get up and instantly all of his bright "happy" colors will come on, he'll walk a little toward what ever it is, but then he goes back to that slump position with the ugly grey colors. I've been trying to figure out what it is that's causing this really strange behavior. It's almost like he wants to feel good, and he tries, but he can't so he just lies back down. I'm paying attention to his "body language" hoping to figure out what it is that, but I'm at a loss
His appetite is still good. He's been eating silkworms and large crickets and the occasional superworm or waxworm as a treat (also to coax him onto my hand or out of his enclosure).
Supplements are the same. Basking temps 86-88 ambient 75-77. humidity 50-70%. lights 8am-8pm. dripper & Climist mist system. Last poop was on the 5th and it was normal (no undigested feeders, large amount of mostly white to cream colored urate).
The first pictures are before last Monday so you can see his normal color, then Monday when he walked along the cage door, and him in his tree, then going back into his enclosure (you can see the grapevine wood in the bottom). In all those pictures, he has normal color, even if he was a bit stressed going back in.
The next picture is Tuesday, then Friday, now today, a week later.
I removed the grapevine wood from his cage on the weekend since it was the only new thing to his enclosure. I thought maybe he was scared of it, since he's more than a bit odd
It didn't make a difference though
I'm out of ideas
My Panther Snogzilla is almost a year old and I've had him since he was 4 months old. He has NEVER wanted to be handled, but he stopped the aggressive threatening behavior a long time ago. He eats from my hand and will climb onto my hand to get a feeder but doesn't want anything more to do with being handled. He has been out of his enclosure via a vine or a branch that goes to a tree by the window (with additional uvb lighting) but only a few times. Last Monday he attempted to climb out onto the door of his cage to reach the tree, but it was a no-go
I helped him to his tree, which he allowed in the extreme circumstance that it was Because he hardly ever gets out of his cage it's difficult to make any changes to his enclosure (plants were sparse, some branches to close together from him baby days and needed to be adjusted). I had managed to add a couple of plants a few days before. I've noticed that he doesn't like the leaves to touch him so if the vines are blocking his branches, even slightly, he won't walk on them.
While he was out of the cage last Monday I adjusted the branches and replaced a few small ones with thicker ones. I also put the grapevine branch in the bottom since it was bare and it took up the space nicely.
Tuesday he got up and went to a branch toward the back and stayed. His color was a really ugly light greenish grey with dark marks. He has been mostly this ugly, sick looking color for a week now. But that's not the strange part.
He will see something that he wants, like the branch that he used to climb out of the enclosure, and he'll get up and instantly all of his bright "happy" colors will come on, he'll walk a little toward what ever it is, but then he goes back to that slump position with the ugly grey colors. I've been trying to figure out what it is that's causing this really strange behavior. It's almost like he wants to feel good, and he tries, but he can't so he just lies back down. I'm paying attention to his "body language" hoping to figure out what it is that, but I'm at a loss
His appetite is still good. He's been eating silkworms and large crickets and the occasional superworm or waxworm as a treat (also to coax him onto my hand or out of his enclosure).
Supplements are the same. Basking temps 86-88 ambient 75-77. humidity 50-70%. lights 8am-8pm. dripper & Climist mist system. Last poop was on the 5th and it was normal (no undigested feeders, large amount of mostly white to cream colored urate).
The first pictures are before last Monday so you can see his normal color, then Monday when he walked along the cage door, and him in his tree, then going back into his enclosure (you can see the grapevine wood in the bottom). In all those pictures, he has normal color, even if he was a bit stressed going back in.
The next picture is Tuesday, then Friday, now today, a week later.
I removed the grapevine wood from his cage on the weekend since it was the only new thing to his enclosure. I thought maybe he was scared of it, since he's more than a bit odd
It didn't make a difference thoughI'm out of ideas
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