recomended food for baby panther

[Fate X]

i bought a pair of baby panthers online and received them on friday.both of them are small.one is very tiny.i have experience raising baby veileds ive never raised panthers this small.

i been feeding them 1/8 crickets.would flightless flies be a good food for the smaller one?

i want to improve its chance for survival the other one seems ok its more active.the smaller one had its eyes open and sometimes closed today it was also moving around from time to time.

 

[jannb]

My daughter feeds her baby panthers fruit flies at first and the adds pinhead crickets to the diet.

 

[Fate X]

thanks for the info

 

[Julirs]

Fate-who did you get them from?

 

[sandrachameleon]

I used hundreds of fruitflies with babies. cheap to raise, and not as hard to dust as I had expected. Plus pin heads. Then added in recently hatched silkworms. Then occasionally some tiny mealworms (only freshly molted and very small). And at about three months I was up to larger crickets, larger silkworms (but still quite small), baby kingworms, baby stick bugs, occasional tiny isopods, and fewer flies (cause they began to have less interest in the flies).

 

[Kat77]

Sandra has got it right on, variety is a good thing. And where did you get the chameleons?

 

[Fate X]

i got positive news about the 2 baby panthers they are both doing great.
they both hunt for the food and the tiny one has grown a little.
that was sooo close i thought the one was a gonner.i got both of them in a small cage.

 

[Fate X]

i wanted to update the info on these 2 panthers.the boy has died.he survived for about 2 weeks.the girl is ok these are pics from 2 weeks ago.
can anybody tell me if she looks like nosy be ?

 

[Sancho]

What was the cause of the death?

 

[Vegas Chad]

Something to do with a Lab... Sending tiny chameleons in the mail... And a roll of tape... *shrug*

 

[Fate X]

i dont know why it died.when it arrived its eyes were closed for 2 days then he opened them up and started eating.then for what appeares no reason he was on the bottom of the cage with his tongue out.i think he had u.r.i.

 

[Sancho]

i dont know why it died.when it arrived its eyes were closed for 2 days then he opened them up and started eating.then for what appeares no reason he was on the bottom of the cage with his tongue out.i think he had u.r.i.

Oh ok did you ever take him to the vet for the eye problem?

 

[Fate X]

he opened his eyes on the second or 3rd day.he was to small to see a vet.

 

[Chase]

How can something be too small to see a vet? He would have been stressed, but would have been better, because you would have know what was going on.

 

[OntarioLizardman]

hm... i dont kno if takeing a tiny, stressed, cham to the vet would help in every case. they are so small and fragile, you never know, could do more harm than good.`

 

[Chameleon Company]

Hate to say it ...

But more often than not it is money wasted with a small chameleon. Fecals are more difficult to obtain and preserve, and like so many things, once you see symptoms, unless they are those that are easier to diagnose by a trained eye, you are going to spend money and still have a dead cham.

Food for small chams was the original concern of this thread, although I did not see it until its current resurrection. To each his own, and this is IMMHO based on what experience I have. With most chams, and their keepers, stick to what you can easily gut-load a broad-based diet. This rules out fruit flies, silk worms, horn worms, waxworms, and a host of other junk. It rules in mealworms, superworms, roaches, safe wild-caught bugs, houseflies, and crickets. If I missed your favorite bug, my apologies. "Cross-Eyed needs variety ...". No. Cross-Eyed needs quality first. In the wild environment, all is adequately taken care of. In your care, its a different story. Consider the non-basic bugs I mention as treats, to include silkworms,and not as staples. Otherwise, stay with the basics and a gutload that includes a lot that you can buy at the fresh (or frozen) veggie aisle at the gorcery store, not at the pet store (feed stores have more of what you need anyway). Or a good on-line gut load. Keep it simple. Variety is good, but only if it maintains quality.

 

[Fate X]

How can something be too small to see a vet? He would have been stressed, but would have been better, because you would have know what was going on.

i had considered taking him to a vet at first then then decided against it.
i felt he was getting better because he was eating and seemed ok.
after his eyes opened he was kept in the same cage as the baby female and she lived and he died.

 

[Julirs]

Fate-did you contact the seller? In your first post I think you thought they were smaller than you had thought they would be when you purchased. I do believe that people that sell chameleons to people younger than they state they are should be somewhat responsible. There is often a common theme with certain sellers and people thinking the chams are smaller than they think they should have been upon purchase.

 

[Fate X]

i didnt contact him julirs.the girl was bigger then the boy she looked twice the size that he was.its messed up because the boy panther had opened his eyes and was moving around and seemed ok after 2-3 days.he had eaten also but not alot.i wanted to take pics of him and since he seemed very fragile.if someone could have seen my face the morning i found him on the bottom of the cage cause i was upset.its not a pretty sight so i just block it out and move forward all my other chameleons are ok.