Sagging & puffy under eyes (with images)

Lizard95

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Chameleon Info:

Your Chameleon - Male, Panther, 10 months old has been in my care for 9.

Handling - Usually only when bringing him to his hibiscus outside.

Feeding - I give him 12 3/4 inch crickets daily, he eats between 8 and 12 a day. Gut loading with repashy super foods and fruit.

Supplements - Light, daily dusting of Repashy calcium plus (recommended schedule, been on it his entire life)

Watering - Dripper and Mist 2 times a day, mist goes for 2 minuets, dripper goes for 10. He's shy about drinking in front of me, but I catching him every now and then. Show's no apparent signs of dehydration.

Fecal Description - Healthy appearing fecal matter, healthy, white urates. He's never been tested for parasites but was given a small amount of deworming agent when he was 6 months old.

History - He's always been healthy, this is the first abnormality I've had with him.

Cage Info:

Cage Type - Metal cage, 40x25x30 (very open air, no medium between cage top and lights, possible problem?)

Lighting - 100w Zoo Med repti basking spot lamp, 26w Exo Terra Repti-Glo 2.0 full spectrum, and 26w Exo Terra Repti-Glo 5.0 UVB. Lights are on from 9:30AM-8:00PM

Temperature - Hottest spot in the cage, his basking spot, is 90. Floor is between 65 and 70. Night time, no lower than 60.

Humidity - 60% - 75%

Plants - Artificial plants, plenty of places to catch droplets.

Placement - Basement room, but well ventilated, low traffic, bottom is about a foot from the floor.

Location - Massachusetts (I've been taking him outside most days in the summer, which he loved. But now that its getting cold, he's been inside for a while which appears to be stressing him out a little.)


Hi Chameleon forums, my friend Erebus has been having a little issue with his eyes. For a few weeks now, one of them, now both, has seemed a little puffy, but only below the actual opening for his pupil. It didn't look like anything concerning until today. The puffy area is only visible when he is looking up or directly at you. He is showing no other signs of ailment and his eyes do not appear to be bothering him. They retain the healthy "ball turret" shape.

I have attached a picture of each eye along with the links:

Left Eye

Right Eye

PS: It's not easy to get a chameleon to pose for a picture, if necessary I can attempt to get less blurry ones.
 

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Eye irritations can be as a result of a Vitamin A deficiency but can be lots of other causes as well.

My 3 month old cham started bulging his eyes and rubbing them on branches recently.

Showered him, but it made no difference.

Took him to the herp vet - she could see nothing untoward in his eye, so advised me to flush it every day with sterile saline. Did this.

He still rubbed his eye on branches and bulged it.

Got some Vit A powder from my local reptile specialist.

BE AWARE OF THIS STUFF! Too much can kill your chameleon.

My breeder advised me to dust 2 feeders out of about 12 twice a week and feed them to my cham until he stopped rubbing his eyes.

I did this - chucked them in first to make sure he ate them and to be honest, have not seen any sign of eye rubbing/eye bulging ever since.

But seriously be careful of Vit A.
 
That's a good thought but his eyes don't seem to be bothering him at all. They're still sagging but don't seem to be getting any better or worse. If I do see it worsen or if it does start to bother him I will certainly take him to the vet. It doesn't actually seem like there is any fluid or anything building up there, it looks more like he just has a lot of extra skin beneath his eye. Though I doubt that's what it actually is.

I'm starting to question if it has something to do with hydration even though I've actually seen him drink a few times this week.
 
Just a thought...From the pictures he doesn't look like he's ready to shed, but, Chameleons will puff up their eyes with air to stretch them to aid in shedding.

Or maybe he just needs a good sleep to get rid of those bags under the eyes, maybe a cucumber spa treatment...Just kidding, I couldn't resist:D
 
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