Scabs after sheds

[SharpShooter]

Hi folks,

Bob has got a few little 'scabs' for want of a better description, including one on his cask. They have appeared after a patchy shed and there may be a couple more beginning on his foot but not yet scabbed like those in the picture.

I originally put it down to small pieces of stuck shed but they haven't shown any sign of improvement.

Anyone know what the cause is or if there's anything I can do to treat?

He's due for a checkup with the vet soon anyway so could bring that forward if needed.

Cheers.

 

[JacksJill]

That looks suspiciously like papilloma virus. I would get it checked sooner rather than later. I could easily be wrong from a picture.

 

[alphakenc]

U can try put some vitamin e on it...but Most likely the scab will still be there (tiny but noticeable)
If ur vet can do a skin biopsy then it will be all reveal.

 

[SharpShooter]

That looks suspiciously like papilloma virus. I would get it checked sooner rather than later. I could easily be wrong from a picture.

That had never crossed my mind! Thanks. (Now worried).

 

[JacksJill]

Sorry hope I'm wrong.
You could try siladene or triple anti biotic but if you are going to do a biopsy don't put anything on it that day.

 

[SharpShooter]

Sorry hope I'm wrong.
You could try siladene or triple anti biotic but if you are going to do a biopsy don't put anything on it that day.

I'm off next week so will bring his appointment forward. Just been looking around and it sounds like its not curable, only manageable.

I need to be extra careful with Rose as well. She's just had her 2nd clutch and I was going to mate them later this year.

I'm more than gutted right now.

 

[krikinit]

Hope for the best. Good to take precautions. I dont have anything to offer so please update us when you can.

 

[JacksJill]

Yes, it is very contagious use precautions.

 

[CamoChameleonsHuman]

Oh man... I'm hoping and praying for the best. Really hope it's not serious for everyone's sake. @Chameleon Mike @Matt Vanilla Gorilla @jamest0o0 @Brodybreaux25

 

[jamest0o0]

Yes, it is very contagious use precautions.

To humans, or other reptiles? Is this fatal? I feel like I've seen a scab-like-thing appear behind my chams head suspiciously similar to this before. I remember just watching it to see if it changed and it disappeared entirely so I shrugged it off.

 

[CamoChameleonsHuman]

To humans, or other reptiles? Is this fatal? I feel like I've seen a scab-like-thing appear behind my chams head suspiciously similar to this before. I remember just watching it to see if it changed and it disappeared entirely so I shrugged it off.

Found this

 

[krikinit]

People get HPV. I dont know if it is the same or not. I think there is an HPV vaccine.

 

[Beman]

HOLY GUACAMOLE! I had no idea that was a thing in reptiles! Oh I hope its not that.

 

[CamoChameleonsHuman]

People get HPV. I dont know if it is the same or not. I think there is an HPV vaccine.

It looks to be the herpes of the reptile world. I'm not saying that's what this is. I'm really hoping not for SharpShooters sake. I know how much he loves his cham babies and how well he takes care of them.

 

[krikinit]

It looks to be the herpes of the reptile world. I'm not saying that's what this is. I'm really hoping not for SharpShooters sake. I know how much he loves his cham babies and how well he takes care of them.

As new keeper, I value these threads. I am with you and hoping for the best. There is so much to learn.

 

[JacksJill]

They have their own version of the virus if I recall. It is only locally invasive but depending on location can cause trouble sometimes fatally as it grows. Shouldn't affect people. I don't know about other reptiles.
I'm not sure this is it but if it is it pays to be cautious.

 

[SharpShooter]

From what I've read it's not contagious to humans but we need to be very careful of Rose and 4 other scaled babies.

It seems to be one of those things that can be carried by most without any symptoms but sometimes flares up out of the blue in others. As Bob hasn't had any contact with anything else directly and only indirectly via me to the other reptiles, he could have been carrying it from very young (if it is papiloma virus).

From the list @CamoChameleonsHuman posted, definitely only 2 things apply in this case, bad shed and some lethargy. None of the others apply at all.

I'll be calling the vet for an appointment in the morning. Once I know for sure I'll update you all. Fingers crossed.

 

[CamoChameleonsHuman]

So I did some further research. The most common cause of Papillomavirus is from breeding bites. It is possible maybe your female bit your male during mating? It also stated certain lizards can be a carrier's but show no signs or won't show signs until later. The virus is not life threatening, although looking at pictures of some veileds infected online I beg to differ. It could be that those chameleons went untreated. The bad news is there is no cure... The good news is it's treatable and should not effect his overall life fulfillment.
http://www.netvet.co.uk/lizards/viral-papilloma.htm
Please note I am just learning about this. I have no expertise and cannot confirm this websites statements or findings.

 

[jamest0o0]

So I did some further research. The most common cause of Papillomavirus is from breeding bites. It is possible maybe your female bit your male during mating? It also stated certain lizards can be a carrier's but show no signs or won't show signs until later. The virus is not life threatening, although looking at pictures of some veileds infected online I beg to differ. It could be that those chameleons went untreated. The bad news is there is no cure... The good news is it's treatable and should not effect his overall life fulfillment.
http://www.netvet.co.uk/lizards/viral-papilloma.htm
Please note I am just learning about this. I have no expertise and cannot confirm this websites statements or findings.

Thank you for checking into this. I'm running around looking at houses so I couldn't look anything up. Appreciate the info!

 

[SharpShooter]

So I did some further research. The most common cause of Papillomavirus is from breeding bites. It is possible maybe your female bit your male during mating? It also stated certain lizards can be a carrier's but show no signs or won't show signs until later. The virus is not life threatening, although looking at pictures of some veileds infected online I beg to differ. It could be that those chameleons went untreated. The bad news is there is no cure... The good news is it's treatable and should not effect his overall life fulfillment.
http://www.netvet.co.uk/lizards/viral-papilloma.htm
Please note I am just learning about this. I have no expertise and cannot confirm this websites statements or findings.

No bites as they haven't been together yet. That was planned in a few months time but won't be happening now.

Some of those pics aren't good but clearly the poor chams have been left to rot!

As far as I read, whilst you can manage the symptoms, you can't get rid of the virus once it's shown itself.

Once I get a positive diagnosis, I'll do whatever is needed for him.