Shayna - juvenile female veiled

[TyggyToo]

Her normal, beautiful self. . .

And her most recent 'bad hair day'

Submitted for your approval,
Tyg

 

[Pilotman800]

Shes a beauty. In the first picture, it looks like she's modeling.

 

[lindawaz]

What great photos! I laughed outloud at the first one! Thank you I needed that

 

[jannb]

She is gorgeous! You posted some great shot of her. How old is she? Do you have a laying bin for her yet?
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/jannb/345-egg-laying-laying-bin.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blo...-keepers-young-veiled-panther-chameleons.html

 

[TyggyToo]

Thanks for the kind words. I have a 5 gal 'contractors bucket' with a foot of play sand in it, ready for her when she needs it, but I seriously hope she waits (and waits and waits). I'll get some peat moss and mix it in there too. So far she hasn't shown any sign of maturity. No blue spots, and she still has a convex belly.

As beautiful as she is, she is not a healthy cham. She is ataxic in both hind legs, and often ends up clutching herself instead of a branch. The vet and I are a bit perplexed, so I've tightened up on all aspects of her husbandry, including temperature, heat and supplementing and hydration.

My most recent attempt to get her to coordinate hind and fore legs will be cutting back on D3, using the Ca+D3 only 1 day a week, multivit 1 day, and plain Ca 5 days.

JannB, I've seen your FR set ups and have wept from envy. How do you manage to keep them in sight of each other like that! I would love to FR her, but can't until she is more coordinated.

Tyg

 

[K9Luvn]

I think she is a cutie....even when she is having a bad hair day Just look how pretty she is under that Wild Woman Hair!

I am new and learning before I get my Chameleon. Could you please explain what the FR set up means?

 

[okiroo]

I think she is a cutie....even when she is having a bad hair day Just look how pretty she is under that Wild Woman Hair!

I am new and learning before I get my Chameleon. Could you please explain what the FR set up means?

Freerange. we let are chams have a tree in the house. they sometimes roam around. i love it much more than haveing a cage and the chams do to. it's much more complicated than a cage tho so make shure you look into it before doing it.

 

[kjq4]

she is a very buiteful chameleon

 

[TyggyToo]

I think she is a cutie....even when she is having a bad hair day Just look how pretty she is under that Wild Woman Hair!

I am new and learning before I get my Chameleon. Could you please explain what the FR set up means?

Just as the others explained, FR stands for Free Range, and it implies that the cham is not caged. jannb has MANY chams free ranging, and I'm in awe. Its not something beginners like me should try, as its difficult enough to make her habitat warm enough, humid enough, with food in dependable places and predators out of sight. I'm not sure Shayna is smart enough to stay put!

Tyg

 

[jannb]

Thanks for the kind words. I have a 5 gal 'contractors bucket' with a foot of play sand in it, ready for her when she needs it, but I seriously hope she waits (and waits and waits). I'll get some peat moss and mix it in there too. So far she hasn't shown any sign of maturity. No blue spots, and she still has a convex belly.

As beautiful as she is, she is not a healthy cham. She is ataxic in both hind legs, and often ends up clutching herself instead of a branch. The vet and I are a bit perplexed, so I've tightened up on all aspects of her husbandry, including temperature, heat and supplementing and hydration.

My most recent attempt to get her to coordinate hind and fore legs will be cutting back on D3, using the Ca+D3 only 1 day a week, multivit 1 day, and plain Ca 5 days.

JannB, I've seen your FR set ups and have wept from envy. How do you manage to keep them in sight of each other like that! I would love to FR her, but can't until she is more coordinated.

Tyg

Thank you for the compliment on my free ranges. Are you sure it's ataxic? I've never heard of a cham with ataxic. Could it be MBD? Also I don't agree with your supplements. You should probably be using some liquid calcium and feeding feeders that are high in calcium like slikworm, phoenix worms and hornworms. I would also recommend dusting with calcium witout d3 at just about every feeding and calcium with d3 twice a month. I would use a multi vitamin twice a month. I like the Reptivite because it has the vit. A in it. Good luck with her. She's a beautiful girl. Jann

 

[TyggyToo]

Ataxic is more of a symptom than a diagnosis. It means uncoordinated movement. She was seen by a vet, who did her research and came back with 'most prob with chams are due to MBD or dehydration so mist more and use calcium gluconate'. Her radiography was not 'omg' bad, but not as dense as the vet would have liked.

So next trip to the rep store will be fore Ca without anything. Maybe I'm over Vit D3ing her. She isn't growing very quickly, but from my understanding, that's just fine. She eats, voids, drinks (little dripper is there, but I mist her 2-3 times a day until I see her gulp and swallow a few times). Droppings look good, urates are nice and white. But her back end does not seem to be aware that its flailing around and grabbing leg/tail/abdomen.

Oh, let's add in SOMETIMES. I've had her go three days without needing to be rescued, then the next day she can't seem to do much without ending up tangled and hanging there by one or two feet. Vets HATE intermittent problems.

 

[camimom]

Ataxic is more of a symptom than a diagnosis. It means uncoordinated movement. She was seen by a vet, who did her research and came back with 'most prob with chams are due to MBD or dehydration so mist more and use calcium gluconate'. Her radiography was not 'omg' bad, but not as dense as the vet would have liked.

So next trip to the rep store will be fore Ca without anything. Maybe I'm over Vit D3ing her. She isn't growing very quickly, but from my understanding, that's just fine. She eats, voids, drinks (little dripper is there, but I mist her 2-3 times a day until I see her gulp and swallow a few times). Droppings look good, urates are nice and white. But her back end does not seem to be aware that its flailing around and grabbing leg/tail/abdomen.

Oh, let's add in SOMETIMES. I've had her go three days without needing to be rescued, then the next day she can't seem to do much without ending up tangled and hanging there by one or two feet. Vets HATE intermittent problems.

You probably are not going to find calcium without d3 in a pet store. You will have to order it online.
I actually use repashy all in one. it has everything a cham needs for supplements and you can use it for every feeding.