Should i..Breed Melleri??????
- Thread starter Courtney
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nightcrawler
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Also if you are not sure of the care for a melleri then you should not breed them. You have yet to own this animal for a month, why would you even consider breeding them?
Its not like im going to be on a tight budget for the rest of my life silly girl. So dont jump to conclusions for me. I just want to know what to watch for and how to handle her situation. Also concidering I have an adult female to add to the other semi local melleri keepers they could be more interested in breeding her than i am. Veilds piece of cake..Melleri no so simple. My chams are by no means in need of anything. I also have no reason to explain my financial standings with a child.
panthercham
New Member
Its so easy to get caught up in the love of these critters and there has been many times where I have searched the classifieds here all dreamy eyed with plans of breeding....reality though always comes back and bites me on the bum! 
Learn everything you can about them for the next 6 - 12 months, keep your chams healthy, save and put away some money for future vet bills and baby costs and then start to plan breeding if you still want to.
Just ask Julirs how much the cost of raising babies are she is the best person to talk to
Learn everything you can about them for the next 6 - 12 months, keep your chams healthy, save and put away some money for future vet bills and baby costs and then start to plan breeding if you still want to.
Just ask Julirs how much the cost of raising babies are she is the best person to talk to
why does everyone jump to conclusions on here drives me ape shite!!!!! Melleri discovery has alot of info. But i crave more. I want Tika to have the longest life possible. to do that there are still alot of unanswered questions. im just looking for opinions for the future. if she were receptive tomorrow there would be no way in hell i would breed her. i have found nothing about their breeding cycle so please excuse the hell out of me for being curious as to weather or not they require any kind of specal care when receptive or gravid its the end of november and the people i ot he from got her mid september she as far as what i read on MD is an adult how am i supose to know someone didnt already try to breed her and sold her off cause they thought it failed stuff like this i need to know. how long after mateing do they lay eggs etc etc etc the patience of people gets on my nerves and for newer keepers it makes you feel like a child who got scolded for spilling milk all over the floor.. and pssh ur still pretty new too having one cham doesnt exactly make your opinions perfect either....when you have to worry about one of your pets without mommy and daddy holding your hand let me know then you can comment on my financial standings!!
pssh
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Your the one who said it in another post. Its just not a cheap task to take on eggs and babies, especially the extremely large clutches that Melleri are known for. Why would you have to explain your financial status to me? I never asked about it, you posted about it.
I don't appreciate the condescending 'tone' of your post. I dont think you'd like it much if I called you an old lady, would you? I'm young, but I'm pretty sure I've kept chameleons for longer than you have. I know quite a bit about them and was simply stating that if you feel that you dont have very much extra money now, you should probably wait until you do.
EDIT: I'd like you to know that I've been taking care of chameleons for 8 or more years now. I always pay for vet bills and make sure to buy everything that my babies need. My mother almost never pays for anything that I need. I use money that I've saved up. Since I was 7 years old I've been the sole caretaker for my chameleons. I couldn't pay for much back then, but I used the money I got for christmas and birthdays. My parents have never ever suggested I do anything for my chameleons, let alone do they know how to care for them.
I don't appreciate the condescending 'tone' of your post. I dont think you'd like it much if I called you an old lady, would you? I'm young, but I'm pretty sure I've kept chameleons for longer than you have. I know quite a bit about them and was simply stating that if you feel that you dont have very much extra money now, you should probably wait until you do.
EDIT: I'd like you to know that I've been taking care of chameleons for 8 or more years now. I always pay for vet bills and make sure to buy everything that my babies need. My mother almost never pays for anything that I need. I use money that I've saved up. Since I was 7 years old I've been the sole caretaker for my chameleons. I couldn't pay for much back then, but I used the money I got for christmas and birthdays. My parents have never ever suggested I do anything for my chameleons, let alone do they know how to care for them.
Its so easy to get caught up in the love of these critters and there has been many times where I have searched the classifieds here all dreamy eyed with plans of breeding....reality though always comes back and bites me on the bum!
Learn everything you can about them for the next 6 - 12 months, keep your chams healthy, save and put away some money for future vet bills and baby costs and then start to plan breeding if you still want to.
Just ask Julirs how much the cost of raising babies are she is the best person to talk to
i have its alot. i have no immediate plans to lol. but i want to know how to totally provide for her. and weather or not she needed to be added to the melleri breeding project that seems to be going on. thats not why i got her though. I got her cause i felt bad when i called and they told me they wanted to get rid of her so they had room for a x mas tree when they had an iguana in a 3x7 and a beardie in an odd shaped large tank...come on not obvious chamtastic parents. the also tried to get me to tell people about some sort of parrots 2000 for both birds lol. they were almost too much.....sorry for my outbursts.
you always look for a way to put me down. and that post wasnt written here soy bring it up gossip is that your elective? go ahead call me old im 25 and look 17 i love it. i have also been suporting myself since i was 14. also i did research off and on since i was 15 on chams which was way before i got my first. and its not my fault that my senegal doesnt usually live for as long as a veild.. you want a cookie for your 9 yr old?????
so on another note....other than me geting agitated at people jumping to conclusons....i know her food cooler climate got cage space covered basically all the basics.....what are the chances that shes could be gravid..i dont know what they look like when they are? im hopeing not though.....i dont know about supliments for the melleri...you know what nevermind
pssh
Avid Member
If you haven't noticed, I haven't been mean to you at all. my post wasn't meant to be mean, I was going by what you had already said.
I've given you nothing nut good advise since you joined this forum, even when you attacked me because there was a slight misunderstanding in tone.
You keep bringing up my age and what not, if you have such a big problem with it, then why do you keep getting mad at me? I've never ever tried to bring you down... Ever. I'm expressing my opinion and you got upset about it. Im sorry for any misunderstanding that I may have caused. I dont like arguing with people who are older than me because I understand the respect I should have for my seniors, but I can't stand it when people think I'm incompetent because of my age. So please, if you could stop bringing up my age and stop arguing with me, I'd appreciate it.
I can honestly say that I am sorry for typing anything that offended you, and I dont want to argue with you anymore. Thank you.
I've given you nothing nut good advise since you joined this forum, even when you attacked me because there was a slight misunderstanding in tone.
You keep bringing up my age and what not, if you have such a big problem with it, then why do you keep getting mad at me? I've never ever tried to bring you down... Ever. I'm expressing my opinion and you got upset about it. Im sorry for any misunderstanding that I may have caused. I dont like arguing with people who are older than me because I understand the respect I should have for my seniors, but I can't stand it when people think I'm incompetent because of my age. So please, if you could stop bringing up my age and stop arguing with me, I'd appreciate it.
I can honestly say that I am sorry for typing anything that offended you, and I dont want to argue with you anymore. Thank you.
but in exchange they buy all your clothes food housing electricity water phone bill internet school suplies your dr bills hair cuts am i forgeting anything...a helathy by nature well taken care of animal isnt expensive other than the added up cost of food and electricity and water they consume/waste....do you give your parents money towards the electricity bill? i just know that in florida my chams have always made roughly a $15.00 difference in the bill. and by your math and mine you have kept a cham for only a few more years that me and most of the time when you were ohh lets say 7-9 if he died you would have cried and that would have been that. in a week or two it would have been like can we get another one now please please...lol
nightcrawler
Avid Member
I think that with your outbursts you seem more childish then someone giving you advice on something you asked. You need to act your age and not over react when people give you advice you do not like. The topic is should you breed her. Don't get upset for someone telling you you shouldn't breed them because of various reasons. The same reasons that are good reasons people shouldn't jump into it. I think that there are too many people jumping into breeding before they are ready. Also you were the one to bring up your financial status, and if you bring it up in a thread that you created then there is no reason to mention it in this thread where it will matter. There should be no reason for you to think of breeding her at all for someone who just obtained it. If you are worried about her eggs then make a laying bin. There is no need to bring up breeding when all you want to know is other husbandry things. Try doing a search for your information. Did you read all of the melleri discovery site? The best information is on that site. I did a quick over look of that site and found what you are looking for. You just need to read more or search more.
Also this. This is the thing I would expect from a 12 year old. Grow up. You say your 25, why don't you act like it.
Also this. This is the thing I would expect from a 12 year old. Grow up. You say your 25, why don't you act like it.
pssh
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But he didn't die. I had read many books about them by the time I had gotten him. I wasn't a child that pleaded and begged for things that I couldn't handle. I understood the fact that it was a life that I was taking care of. I had many lizards before my chameleons and again, I took care of them by myself. Now I think it is you who is making the assumptions.
Parents are supposed to care for their children, hence the reason she takes care of me and buys me things like clothes, though I do try to only buy things once a year so that I dont spend too much. I understand budgets and I understand limits, which is why I take care of my animals. I try to pay for the majority of my animals' needs by myself.
Again, anything I post isn't to be taken argumentatively. Just my opinions or facts about what is, and what isn't.
Parents are supposed to care for their children, hence the reason she takes care of me and buys me things like clothes, though I do try to only buy things once a year so that I dont spend too much. I understand budgets and I understand limits, which is why I take care of my animals. I try to pay for the majority of my animals' needs by myself.
Again, anything I post isn't to be taken argumentatively. Just my opinions or facts about what is, and what isn't.
i dont want to argue either but you shoukd never quote your seniors financial status weather you read it or it was spoken about infront of you. im tired in a bad mood dont mean to take it out on you i also realised that alsot of what i thought i included in that first post wasnt there i somehow ended up typeing it in another window. i really need to get a new power cord for my laptop so i dont have to use this crappy laptop tha has a mind of its own. i wont even keep the correct time....Good night pssh Have a Happy Thanksgiving!!!!!! And im not being scarcastic. i dont plan on breeding her it just crossed my mind that it is possible that someone could have tried before where i got her i dont know if they retain sperm too...aghhhh god why do i have to be such an animal rescuer...also did i mention they wouldnt come down on the 350 for her and her set up so i could take her to the vet cause they never took her....i really need to know a cham vet around here ive called every exotics vet and they dont know squat about chams or they can only check for parasites and added to that they will still charge for an exam on top of it and im like you dont really know about them and i just want to drop off some poop...
Syn
Avid Member
You didn't have to buy the melleri. You chose to do so. Assuming you did all the research like you should have, you would have known that most melleri are wild caught and are generally a more expensive chameleon. You would have also known that they get sick easily, vet bills can pile up.
If Fort Lauderdale is in Florida (sorry if I am incorrect), there are many great herp vets around.
However, that being said.. I wish you luck with whatever you do.
If Fort Lauderdale is in Florida (sorry if I am incorrect), there are many great herp vets around.
However, that being said.. I wish you luck with whatever you do.
summoner12
Avid Member
Courtney. Sorry I did not read this thread very closely because there seems to be a mild cat fight going on from what i scanned....
But I wanna lay something out for ya. Melleri are not "easy" as 'in bed'. They don't breed like a veiled chameleon or panther. You don't just put them together and bam! baby melleri. Not only that they aren't a cham that should be taken lightly. They need space. The other day you PMed me in what seemed like a panic attack, trying to figure out a space for your new cham to live. You didn't even reply to the info I sent you, your welcome.
I think you really need to sit back, let your melleri settle in and enjoy him. When you get more involved in the community then think about contacting others for 'breeding projects'. Anyone willing to just put melleri together for a quick buck in my book should be banned...... They have no respect.
But I wanna lay something out for ya. Melleri are not "easy" as 'in bed'. They don't breed like a veiled chameleon or panther. You don't just put them together and bam! baby melleri. Not only that they aren't a cham that should be taken lightly. They need space. The other day you PMed me in what seemed like a panic attack, trying to figure out a space for your new cham to live. You didn't even reply to the info I sent you, your welcome.
I think you really need to sit back, let your melleri settle in and enjoy him. When you get more involved in the community then think about contacting others for 'breeding projects'. Anyone willing to just put melleri together for a quick buck in my book should be banned...... They have no respect.
Lizardlover
New Member
Well said, let your cham settle in and enjoy him/her before rushing into breeding, its not a race, and its not like its even manditory.
