cryogen
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Chameleon Info:
* Your Chameleon - Panther, male, we were told he's about 1 year old. We've had him for a week now.
* Handling - We don't. He was handled yesterday when we took him to the vet and this morning when we tried giving him water. But we don't want to stress him out so we usually don't handle him.
* Feeding - We've been giving him crickets from the pet store that we got him at. He was eating about 6 large ones throughout the day (usually fed him about 2-3 in the morning and then another 3 or so in the late afternoon. We've been giving the feeders turnip greens (rep guy at petstore recommended that).
* Supplements - We hadn't started dusting yet because we realized our supplement powder we had leftover from our first chameleon had become clumpy and just needs to be replaced. Going to go to a different pet store today to get some more because the one we've been going to has been out. One week of no supplements isn't too bad, right?
* Watering - We have a ZooMed HabbaMist set up that mists every hour for 15 seconds onto his fake plants. I also hand mist throughout the day until I see the water dripping off all the leaves. He drank a lot yesterday when we brought him home from the vet, more than I've ever seen him drink. Was standing with his mouth open underneath where the water drips off his upper plants after misting, drinking it all up and then went and drank off all the leaves he was near.This morning we used a eye dropper to put some water in his mouth because he looked so weak.
* Fecal Description - Dark brown with the white urea. Most appears solid, but some have looked slimy. But then again he's been consistently throwing up so it's hard to tell what's poop and what's puke. He's never been tested, but he's throwing up thin, peach colored worms. Vet gave him panacur.
* History - We've only had him a week so no history from us. At the petstore we got him at the guy would hand feed him crickets a lot. He let us do it when he was trying to convince us to buy him over another Panther. So I'm guessing he'd let other people hand feed him before too. Not sure if he could've gotten something from someone with bad hygiene or something, since he never made us wash our hands before hand.
Cage Info:
* Cage Type - ZooMed Screen cage. probably about 2 feet in length, 2 feet in width, and about 3 feet tall.
* Lighting - ExoTerra hood ontop of the cage, with two 5.0 UVB bulbs in. On a timer to be on from 7AM -8PM
* Temperature - Temp range of 80-90. lowest overnight temp is 74. our thermometer is malfunctioning in that cage (I got a bit overzealous in my misting near it and it hasn't worked great since, buying a new one today also).
* Humidity - Unknown for now since the hygrometer was part of the faulty thermometer. The HabbaMist is set up and I hand mist regularly.
* Plants - Nope, just some fake ones for now. Searching for some nice chameleon safe ones though.
* Placement - It's in our computer room, not near a vent, there is a fan in the room but it hasn't been on since the weather has been nice. The cage is about 3 feet off the floor on an old table.
* Location - Central Florida
Current Problem - The chameleon started throwing up yesterday morning and his throw up had small, thin, pink colored worms in it. We took him to a local exotic vet and he gave him panacur and told us to come back in 3 weeks for him to get another dose. I'm not 100% on the dose but on our receipt it looks like it was .10 cc. not sure though. He didn't do a fecal, but we brought him the thrown up worms. He was active at the vet's office and then drank a lot when we got home. He didn't eat at all yesterday, started hunting after a cricket that had escaped us in his cage but then gave up on it when it jumped away. wouldn't eat when we offered to hand feed him multiple times that day either (he's lazy since the guy at the pet store always hand fed him). He wasn't looking all that happy yesterday evening, was darker colored than usual. This morning when we woke up he wasn't looking good at all. Very dull colored, no energy, threw up a huge pile of worms and had thrown up more in the middle of the night too. He still won't eat and hasn't been going anywhere near the wet leaves so we've been using a dropper to drop some water in his mouth. Is this normal for a chameleon with a heavy parasite load? Is it ok that he's not eating? Should we try to mush up something for him and dropper feed him?
He also appeared to be sleeping a lot during the day when we first got him. We were just keeping an eye on him and chalking it up to him getting used to his new environment. But now I'm thinking it was all the parasites?
Attached a picture I just took of him and a picture of his worm puke.
* Your Chameleon - Panther, male, we were told he's about 1 year old. We've had him for a week now.
* Handling - We don't. He was handled yesterday when we took him to the vet and this morning when we tried giving him water. But we don't want to stress him out so we usually don't handle him.
* Feeding - We've been giving him crickets from the pet store that we got him at. He was eating about 6 large ones throughout the day (usually fed him about 2-3 in the morning and then another 3 or so in the late afternoon. We've been giving the feeders turnip greens (rep guy at petstore recommended that).
* Supplements - We hadn't started dusting yet because we realized our supplement powder we had leftover from our first chameleon had become clumpy and just needs to be replaced. Going to go to a different pet store today to get some more because the one we've been going to has been out. One week of no supplements isn't too bad, right?
* Watering - We have a ZooMed HabbaMist set up that mists every hour for 15 seconds onto his fake plants. I also hand mist throughout the day until I see the water dripping off all the leaves. He drank a lot yesterday when we brought him home from the vet, more than I've ever seen him drink. Was standing with his mouth open underneath where the water drips off his upper plants after misting, drinking it all up and then went and drank off all the leaves he was near.This morning we used a eye dropper to put some water in his mouth because he looked so weak.
* Fecal Description - Dark brown with the white urea. Most appears solid, but some have looked slimy. But then again he's been consistently throwing up so it's hard to tell what's poop and what's puke. He's never been tested, but he's throwing up thin, peach colored worms. Vet gave him panacur.
* History - We've only had him a week so no history from us. At the petstore we got him at the guy would hand feed him crickets a lot. He let us do it when he was trying to convince us to buy him over another Panther. So I'm guessing he'd let other people hand feed him before too. Not sure if he could've gotten something from someone with bad hygiene or something, since he never made us wash our hands before hand.
Cage Info:
* Cage Type - ZooMed Screen cage. probably about 2 feet in length, 2 feet in width, and about 3 feet tall.
* Lighting - ExoTerra hood ontop of the cage, with two 5.0 UVB bulbs in. On a timer to be on from 7AM -8PM
* Temperature - Temp range of 80-90. lowest overnight temp is 74. our thermometer is malfunctioning in that cage (I got a bit overzealous in my misting near it and it hasn't worked great since, buying a new one today also).
* Humidity - Unknown for now since the hygrometer was part of the faulty thermometer. The HabbaMist is set up and I hand mist regularly.
* Plants - Nope, just some fake ones for now. Searching for some nice chameleon safe ones though.
* Placement - It's in our computer room, not near a vent, there is a fan in the room but it hasn't been on since the weather has been nice. The cage is about 3 feet off the floor on an old table.
* Location - Central Florida
Current Problem - The chameleon started throwing up yesterday morning and his throw up had small, thin, pink colored worms in it. We took him to a local exotic vet and he gave him panacur and told us to come back in 3 weeks for him to get another dose. I'm not 100% on the dose but on our receipt it looks like it was .10 cc. not sure though. He didn't do a fecal, but we brought him the thrown up worms. He was active at the vet's office and then drank a lot when we got home. He didn't eat at all yesterday, started hunting after a cricket that had escaped us in his cage but then gave up on it when it jumped away. wouldn't eat when we offered to hand feed him multiple times that day either (he's lazy since the guy at the pet store always hand fed him). He wasn't looking all that happy yesterday evening, was darker colored than usual. This morning when we woke up he wasn't looking good at all. Very dull colored, no energy, threw up a huge pile of worms and had thrown up more in the middle of the night too. He still won't eat and hasn't been going anywhere near the wet leaves so we've been using a dropper to drop some water in his mouth. Is this normal for a chameleon with a heavy parasite load? Is it ok that he's not eating? Should we try to mush up something for him and dropper feed him?
He also appeared to be sleeping a lot during the day when we first got him. We were just keeping an eye on him and chalking it up to him getting used to his new environment. But now I'm thinking it was all the parasites?
Attached a picture I just took of him and a picture of his worm puke.
