Sick Veiled Cham

[Ethantrombone16]

Once again... What has changed since your other thread about the chameleon not eating? Have you moved him from one residence to another? How long has he had the puffy cheeks and casque?

My apologies, the other Cham has since been moved to a new owner, where I do not know the condition of. My current Cham has had a puffy casque and checks for a long while, but never this much. He has also gone from 180g to 208g in a matter of a few weeks.

 

[Ethantrombone16]

Put a light dusting of this on every feeder given to him, discontinue all other supplements.

Give him 2-3 large, dusted, we’ll-gutloaded feeders every 3-4 days.

Repashy Calcium Plus LoD 3 Oz JAR https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DLJRMV2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_frMTDb57TMSGD

Sounds good. Thank you so much for your help. I’ll be sure to post updates.

 

[Ethantrombone16]

Hey guys. Its update time. After a follow up appointment a couple days ago, we have not gotten much better. We are told to give him a calcium prescription every day, which he rarely takes without spitting out. He won’t accept any source of food. We’ve updated his lights so he is constantly running around 87-88 in his basking spot. His humidity will stay around 70-75 percent about an hour after misting, which now occurs every hour for 60 seconds (the highest setting in his misting system). I’m trying my hardest to follow what all of you say to do, but he seems to make no progress. Unfortunately the vet that we have around says it could be early MBD, which concerns me if he wont accept calcium supplements, or an upper respiratory infection which also scares me because we’ve worked very to keep his air flow and quality as high as possible Thanks again guys and gals.

 

[kinyonga]

Is he still not using his legs? How did the vet decide it might be MBD?
What calcium are you giving him? Is it liquid?
What is the vet doing about it if it's a respiratory infection?

 

[Ethantrombone16]

He seems to be slightly better with his legs. The vet says they think both of those issues because of “common problems with chams” so they gave us a liquid calcium to give him. Besides that they are not doing anything, except they told us to make another appointment if it doesn’t get better in two weeks

 

[Kaizen]

He seems to be slightly better with his legs. The vet says they think both of those issues because of “common problems with chams” so they gave us a liquid calcium to give him. Besides that they are not doing anything, except they told us to make another appointment if it doesn’t get better in two weeks

It might be the part of prudence to seek out a new vet.

 

[Ethantrombone16]

That does sound more and more like the plan in the future.

 

[kinyonga]

If the liquid calcium is syrupy some chameleons don't like to take it. Try giving it to him a little at a time or slip it in when he's drinking. How are you feeding him? What are you feeding him?
Why do you think it might be a respiratory infection? Is he wheezing? Breathing with his mouth open? Anything else?

 

[Ethantrombone16]

The calcium is pretty normal, however separated a bit. I give it a good shake and is goes back to normal a little. I personally do not think there is a large chance that there could be a respiratory infection BECAUSE there is no weezing or anything that could indicate one.

 

[kinyonga]

you said he won't take food...so are you force feeding him? If you do,this you have to be very careful that none of it ends up in his lungs. Have you tried getting him to drink then sticking an insect BETWEEN HIS TEETH while his mouth is opening and shutting as he drinks? (Tell me if he takes the insect or spits it out.)

 

[JackRipper]

Have you tried offering fruits and veggies or leafy greens. That swelling in his head could it be edema? I don't really see much joint swelling. maybe some other overdose of vitamins idk but either way Ide say he needs some good ole fashioned unfiltered sunshine. morning sun to be exact. If his legs don't work then dont leave him in it for more than 10-15 min. Just a thought i Hope he recovers.

 

[Ethantrombone16]

I have tried once a day to force a roach in between his teeth. Never just in his mouth. I am extremely careful to not let anything into his lungs.

 

[Ethantrombone16]

Have you tried offering fruits and veggies or leafy greens. That swelling in his head could it be edema? I don't really see much joint swelling. maybe some other overdose of vitamins idk but either way Ide say he needs some good ole fashioned unfiltered sunshine. morning sun to be exact. If his legs don't work then dont leave him in it for more than 10-15 min. Just a thought i Hope he recovers.

I could definitely try to give him some sun in the mornings.

 

[JackRipper]

I could definitely try to give him some sun in the mornings.

It's got what plants crave

 

[JackRipper]

It will help But sun by itself isn't going to fix him. Can we see a pic of his cage and basking area?

 

[Brodybreaux25]

The vet is guessing, that means the odds of you getting a correct diagnosis is the same as if my 7yo diagnosed him. Seek a new vet in the morning.

 

[JackRipper]

Yeah I agree with Brody his condition may be past home remedys and high hopes you should see a specialist. ASAP

 

[kinyonga]

I have tried once a day to force a roach in between his teeth. Never just in his mouth. I am extremely careful to not let anything into his lungs.

The idea was NOT to force him. That's stressful and may hurt his mouth. The idea was to give him the "opportunity" to eat with the least stress possible.

Is it warm enough in Iowa this time of year to take him out for sunlight?

 

[JackRipper]

Ive used liquid food (I think it was called reptiboost but I'm sure there are several variants of it) in a syringe to place one drop at a time in a Jackson's mouth. That and honey as a ointment saved him from early onset of mouth rot.

 

[kinyonga]

This might help...
https://www.adcham.com/html/husbandry/bug-juice.html