skin around eye

sandrachameleon

Chameleon Enthusiast
The skin on one eye turret doesn't look good/right to me. I'd like your opinions.

He was shedding a couple weeks ago, so at first just seemed like the turret was a bit slow to shed. Noticed him briefly rub the eye turret on a branch once - which seemed natural for removing stuck shed. A piece of the old skin did start to come off. So all seemed well. I increased misting time but figured it was all going to come off find eventually. Yesterday afternoon he was sitting under the dripper, and that seemed a good move in his part, to soften the skin. he moved away after drinking. I had a closer look and it seemed to me that the skin underneath a piece of the shed coming off didn't look right to me. Took some photos.

ignore the open mouth. He hates the camera and that is why he is showing upset colours and gaping.
last photo is of the other side, the "normal" looking eye.

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  • Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
  • Handling - not often. perhaps once a week briefly (less than a couple minutes), once a month for longer - he doesn't mind handling.
  • Feeding - he eats hisser roaches, dubia, supers, silks, butters, meals, terrestrial isopods, etc.
  • Supplements - sticky tongue farms mineral-o calcium. Repashy calcium plus for vitamins. not a set schedule - use is according to need.
  • Watering - drippers run morning and evening. misting every other day minimally, more if humidity is low. he drinks well each morning, sometimes also in the evening.
  • Fecal Description - normal brown with white urate. last fecal test was in September - clear.

  • Cage Type - painted peg board sides, wood frame, solid wood floor, plexi double doors, wide wire top (not dense screen). 2 foot wide, 2 foot deep, 4 foot high. sits ontop of a stand, so top of cage is about six feet from floor.
  • Lighting - ReptiSun 5.0 tube, about a month old. had a coil ReptiGlo 5.0 on there for a couple months prior to that, while waiting for the tubes to arrive. before that was a reptisun tube. 60 watt tungsten incandescent bulb for heat. All on auto timers.
  • Temperature - Day bottom of cage 72F, mid cage 76F, basking area 85F. digital gauges (also have a temp gun but the values listed are as on the digital gauges). Lowest night temp 63F
  • Humidity - digital guage, 30-70%. its winter, so the indoor humidity is usually on the lower end, around 40%.
  • Plants - pothos. used to also have a ficus. This guy doesn't like hiding in plants, prefers open spaces.
  • Placement - cage is in a room used only for chameleons and frogs. there is window, a forced air heat vent and an oil-filled rad (home heat is set low, the oil filled rad is set to come on if needed to keep that room above 60F) on opposite side of room from cage.
  • Location - British Columbia, Canada. zone 7. currently winter outside.
 
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In that first picture of the left eye it does look abnormal. It looks like there is some discharge from the skin of the turret itself. You could take a q-tip and gently rub the skin of the turret and some discharge or yellow/green discoloration comes off then you know something's up. If that's the case use the q-tip to try to remove as much of the goo as possible. He probably won't appreciate it very much but that will make it less itchy and help it dry out so it can heal. As long as the eye itself is okay (no squinting or anything) then a little neosporin applied just to the turret skin might be enough to help clear it up if it doesn't look better after a few days of just rubbing the debris off. Be careful not to get it too close to the eye opening though. Antibiotic eye drops will cover a better surface area and be safe for the eye itself.
 
its quite dry, no discharge. The wet look is because he sat under the dripper. In fact it seems too dry, if that makes sense. skin doesn't seem as flexible as on the other side.

I will try the neo.

maybe I'll go ahead and make a vet appointment.
 
I don't really have anything to add about the eye issue but when I clicked the photos my immediate thought was he is pale. I don't know what his normal and fired up colours are but they did strike me as slightly off. Maybe I'm wrong about that but I thought I would mention it.

Good luck at the vet.
 
I don't really have anything to add about the eye issue but when I clicked the photos my immediate thought was he is pale. I don't know what his normal and fired up colours are but they did strike me as slightly off. Maybe I'm wrong about that but I thought I would mention it.

Good luck at the vet.

He's a cross, so he's non-standard, but
you are right - those are his stress colours - its in reaction to the camera.
(he has two stress colour options, sometimes he goes washed out and other times he goes black side stripes).

he is back to his normal saturation now.
 
I caught the flu so my husband took him in for a vet checkup on my behalf. Normal vet (in whom I have confidence) also had flu, but the other vet (in whom I have less confidence, but not to the point of distrust - she's just less experienced) at the location felt the eye was just going to shed. And indeed now it is. But it still doesn't look right to me. There is no colour to the turret - its grey - and the skin coming off is crusty and thick - a piece of skin that has come off is not the normal white of dead skin but rather has a brownish ting to it.
In all my years of cham keeping, I've not seen this before. I am convinced it is not a normal shed, but hopefully still nothing to be concerned about.

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Just an idea,

It sounds to me that the area has been irritated a bit and became raw and now has caused a few extra layers of skin to come off with a shed. (almost like a scab from a cut will fall off and the skin underneath takes some time to look normal) I hope that it will be back to normal for him now. :)
 
Just an idea,

It sounds to me that the area has been irritated a bit and became raw and now has caused a few extra layers of skin to come off with a shed. (almost like a scab from a cut will fall off and the skin underneath takes some time to look normal) I hope that it will be back to normal for him now. :)

possibly
and Thanks for the good wishes :)
 
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