Softened water

[Syn]

I think they do it for AQUARIUM water, but I'm sure they have other water testers as well.

Think of it this way. If you can't find a good source of water that you can afford, you should just give the chameleon up. There's no use offering excuses while your chameleon is DYING or getting DEHYDRATED.

 

[Vince]

It really irks me when people like the author of that assume that all wells are contaminated with surface runoff. I drill them for a living and I would much rather drink water from a properly done well than city water. If it is done correctly it should have no surface water in it. Sorry, just strikes a nerve.

I thought that when i read it too. We have never had any problems with our well water, except for the sulfur smell. And that is from the minerals in the water not the well.
I agree with you, i would definitely rather drink well water than city, i hate the chlorine taste.

 

[Vince]

I think they do it for AQUARIUM water, but I'm sure they have other water testers as well.

Think of it this way. If you can't find a good source of water that you can afford, you should just give the chameleon up. There's no use offering excuses while your chameleon is DYING or getting DEHYDRATED.

Not that worried dude. If my water at the house isn't fine i could go get city water and let the chlorine evaporate. I would never let my cham get dehydrated and die because i just cant get the right water. For you to think i am like that, kind of strikes a nerve to be honest...
On top of that, i am willing to bet that the little sulfur smell is by far more safe for a cham than some added chlorine's florines and what ever else you will find in bottled or city water.
Dont want you to jump to conclusions though, i will get it tested.

 

[Syn]

Check for fluorides and other minerals, because they don't evaporate like chlorine does.

Most bottled waters don't have the fluorides as far as I know.

 

[Vince]

Check for fluorides and other minerals, because they don't evaporate like chlorine does.

Most bottled waters don't have the fluorides as far as I know.

Looks to me like everyone just lets the chlorine evaporate out of the city water.
Anyways, i will get my water tested and find what will be best for him.

 

[Todnedo]

A water softner uses ion exchange resin.
They exchange sodium ions for calcium and mineral ions. The amount of hardness in the source water will determine the amout of sodium in the softend water.

Hydrogen sulfide gas is what gives well water the sulfur smell. If you let a glass of water sit overnight the hydrogen sulfide gas will be released in to the air.

Chameleons in nature drink dew and rain water.
Well and city water contain silicates, phosphates and a whole lot of other stuff that they would never get in the wild.

 

[Vince]

A water softner uses ion exchange resin.
They exchange sodium ions for calcium and mineral ions. The amount of hardness in the source water will determine the amout of sodium in the softend water.

Hydrogen sulfide gas is what gives well water the sulfur smell. If you let a glass of water sit overnight the hydrogen sulfide gas will be released in to the air.

Chameleons in nature drink dew and rain water.
Well and city water contain silicates, phosphates and a whole lot of other stuff that they would never get in the wild.

So are you buying your chameleons water, or do you collect rain? Or another method?

 

[zelink14]

It really irks me when people like the author of that assume that all wells are contaminated with surface runoff. I drill them for a living and I would much rather drink water from a properly done well than city water. If it is done correctly it should have no surface water in it. Sorry, just strikes a nerve.

I grew up on well water and it was way more delicious than our now city water.

 

[jojackson]

Looks to me like everyone just lets the chlorine evaporate out of the city water.

I do this for my tree frogs. It dosent actually evaporate as such, If you leave it out in the sun, Uv light 'breaks it down' (chlorine) degrades it. I leave a few buckets out all the time, so I always have some ready (few days) . I just rotate.

http://www.uvsciences.com/index_files/Page3410.htm

As far as flouride is concerned, I have no idea, that said Ive been using flourinated water for 20 odd years for reptiles with no harmful effect.

Vince, if you can drink your well water and not get sick, then I dont think your cham will either.
If you can store it ourdoors in a large open container/tub, where it can get Uv exposure, and maybe buy an aquarium pump& filter and airate it for a couple of days, should get rid of any sulphur smell.

If your concerned, you can by all kinds of filter media from an aquarium store, Your bound to find a suitable type.

http://www.westcoastpetsupply.com/1/chemical-filter-media/

 

[Todnedo]

So are you buying your chameleons water, or do you collect rain? Or another method?

I have a RO DI unit for all my animals and me.

 

[ChromaChameleons]

Todnedo.. what brand/ manufacturer RO do you use?

 

[Todnedo]

I have this one http://www.spectrapure.com/St_MaxCap-RO-DI.htm

 

[summoner12]

I have this one http://www.spectrapure.com/St_MaxCap-RO-DI.htm

Those guys look good, have a lot of stuff... systems aren't too unreasonable.

I just set an Apec system up for a forum member recently. I don't like those guys very much. High prices and morons over the phone. I called them to find out some info and the guy who picked up on the 'tech support' line knew less than I did. And when returning a part and not being credited the entire amount (un-used part) and calling to bitch they said 'it was wet so it's used'.................... it came wet . When explaining this to the person they paused.. said 'hold on' and put the call on hold. THEN came back apologizing profusely and gave a full refund. morons

If anyone has questions about RO... and how much water is wasted, feel free to PM me.... If you pay your water bill you will notice a SERIOUS increase in price if you're using your RO a lot. There are ways around the wasted water.

 

[Todnedo]

I have a unit from http://www.buckeyefieldsupply.com/ too.
They are a good company and very knowlegable.
Most ro units have 1:3 rejection rate.
I temper the water going in to about 77 deg. and use a permeate pump to reduce the rejection rate. http://www.buckeyefieldsupply.com/showproducts.asp?Sub=151&showspecials=151
After you own a ro unit its very hard to drink tap water again.

 

[summoner12]

I have a unit from http://www.buckeyefieldsupply.com/ too.
They are a good company and very knowlegable.
Most ro units have 1:3 rejection rate.
I temper the water going in to about 77 deg. and use a permeate pump to reduce the rejection rate. http://www.buckeyefieldsupply.com/showproducts.asp?Sub=151&showspecials=151
After you own a ro unit its very hard to drink tap water again.

Have you tested your rejection rate?

 

[BocaJan]

Here in BR, FL we have slightly salty water. You can't tell just by drinking it, but if you have a tiny scratch or cut yourself when shaving, you feel that salt sting. It hasn't hurt my chameleons at all.

 

[summoner12]

Here in BR, FL we have slightly salty water. You can't tell just by drinking it, but if you have a tiny scratch or cut yourself when shaving, you feel that salt sting. It hasn't hurt my chameleons at all.

Do your chams ever have dusty noses?

 

[panthercham]

The tap water where I am at is pretty good but I always use for myself and my chams a Brita water pitcher. It removes chlorine, copper, lead and mercury and gets rid of the funny tap water taste. It doesn't remove fluoride or sodium though.

I like it cos I dont have to run out to the supermarket and haul around big bottles of water and its fairly cheap. The filter gets replaced every 3 months and costs me $36 a year.

 

[Vince]

I think im going to try the pitcher, sounds like a good cheap way of getting better water than just normal tap. And good news, my parents are talking about getting a RO system so when i am home for summer he will have great water. Along with everyone else

 

[ninja the chameleon]

how deep should the water be if im letting my chameleon in the bath?