Sorry about my attitude.

NickyChameleon

NickyChameleon

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Sorry about my reaction to your advice. I plan to get a baby/juvenile Jackson's/Senegal Cham, and upgrade his cage size eventually. I have all the materials and have done the research. It took me several months to convince my mom to let me get a chameleon, and I would not like to start over. I intend to get this little guy soon, in a week or two. I would share my setup but picture sharing is complicated and I don't understand it. Basically I have a 18"x18"x2' tall terrarium, I have a golden Pothos growing, plenty of things to climb on and hide in. Besides me not getting a chameleon or getting a Pygmy or getting a bigger cage ( I will get a bigger cage in a few months with the aid of Christmas money) and plan to make this guy happy. I have the UVB light as well as a heat lamp (separate)and a humidifier I may or may not be using, as well as a dropper system I created by stabbing a hole in a few plastic cups and putting them on the roof. So, my question is:Senegal or Jackson's? Anything else I need (besides research, which no one can get too much of)? Again, sorry for the attitude. I came here to learn from the best and that's what I'll do.
 
P.S. No matter what species, age, or anything, I will be naming him Chiche after my baby horned frog patient from the Navajo Reservation, which I visited on a mission trip. In Navajo, Chiche means "grandfather". They believe that horned frogs contains the spirit of their grandfathers and forebears. Hoping that this new Chiche will be as wonderful as the original, wish me luck. PPS- the site that has the cheap Chams is called Back Water Reptiles. They have no shipping charge and certain Chams there are cheap, some are more expensive. There are CB Jackson's there of all ages, but they only have tamed wild caught Senegals. Wishing you and I both luck,
Nick, the Reptile Boy
 
PPPS- No, I am not getting a puppy. Want one, but my mom won't let me. I'm good with reptiles, but I love dogs as well. German Shepards, Huskies, Labs, and Rotweilers are my favorites. My favorite reptile? Chameleons and horned frogs (obviously, I also live by TCU), and Chinese water dragons. Want to know a random fact? They poop in their water so much because the water acts as a laxative to them. Imagine sitting in your hot tub with your buddies, when all of a sudden you go diarrhea. But it keeps happening like every 20 minutes. That is the life of a Chinese water dragon.
 
Nicky, thank you for your post. It takes a lot of courage to step up, eat a little crow, and admit when you've been acting a fool. Not easy for anybody, and I admire it.

Like I said earlier, we honestly want you to succeed and have a happy and healthy chameleon. That's the motivation behind all the advice people having been trying to give.

To answer your question, I think that's a solid plan to start with a juvenile and upgrade the cage size in the future. Either type would be a good option if you can get a captive born one. I had a Jackson's, and I really think they are wonderful chams. If your mom's objections to the horns has anything to do with safety concerns, she shouldn't worry - Jax aren't dangerous at all. And Senegal's are very pretty "classic" chameleons.

To share photos, when you reply, under the text area there is a button that says "Manage Attachments". This will let you upload photos.
 
DO NOT SHOP AT BACKWATER REPTILES!!!!! Sorry guys I looked them up on YouTube a bunch of their animals arrive dead or close to it, including a Jackson's Cham and a box turtle
 
Thanks for commenting, and also she said they can get sick easy or something. Does that have anything to do with the 5 month "rule"?
 
I wouldn't say that Jacksons have any chance to get more or less sick than any other type of chameleon. I would recommend getting one around six months old at a minimum. They do have a little bit different care than some other types of chameleons - lower temperatures, less supplements, and they need more water. But the care sheets here spell it in detail, so if you follow the care sheets, you will be successful.

Wherever you do get your cham from, it's always a good idea to check out any references. One place you can do this is Fauna Classified's Board of Inquiry (BOI). You can search seller names and see if anyone has complained or complimented the seller. We don't support that type of review on CF, so we send people to the BOI.
 
Yeah, a short coming of static forum format. You don't see new posts until you refresh.

Start by checking our site sponsors. At the top right of the main page is an ad. Right under that is a link that says "see our sponsors". Lots of panthers, but sometimes may have Jackson's for sale, too. Also, check the Classified page here.

Be sure to ask a few things:

Is it captive born or wild caught?
Do they have a live arrival guarantee?
Do they have any health guarantee?
Ask for a shipping estimate.
 
Make sure you have your supplementation bought before you get your new little one. That'll be Calcium, two different cups of it, one with D3 and one without D3, and a multivitamin. You'll dust your feeders with the calcium (WITHOUT D3) at every feeding, and then twice a month you'll dust with calcium WITH D3 and the multivitamin.

The good thing is a little of it goes a long way because you do not need much when you dust. Just a tiny, tiny (and I mean tiny) dollop will sufficiently coat all feeders. You don't want them to look like ghosts. If they look very white, you're using too much calcium.

An easy way to dust them is to get a deli-cup, the tall, clear, plastic cups that soups and fruits sometimes come in. Make sure you have a lid too -- you can get them cheap online, like less than a dollar for one cup. That way you're sure it's clean and bacteria free. Put the calcium into the cup, followed by the feeders, pop on the lid and swirl them around. They'll be dusted in seconds and then you can feed the cham. How is your choice, whether you want the cham to hunt them or if you want to cup feed.

Besides having the enclosure ready for your new arrival, this is the most important thing to have ready. They need those supplements. Even more so when they're babies/juveniles.
 
Avoid any Jackson under 5-6 months old if Chameleons are new to you, babies can be an issue for advanced keepers as well.. GL and hope you find what you want..
 
carbyville said:
You'll dust your feeders with the calcium (WITHOUT D3) at every feeding, and then twice a month you'll dust with calcium WITH D3 and the multivitamin.
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Once a month for Jacksons. They require less supplementation that veileds and panthers. Check the care sheets for recommendations for Senegals.

Follow the care sheets here, and you'll do great.
 
You guys are great. I'm saving up my money and working for my grandparents and such. However I'm going to start a new thread to attempt to get more people to reply.
 
I just got a veiled a few days ago the cost of her aside $50 I dropped another $300 in store on reptibreeze cage lights, plants the whole bit (small, which I just bought a new XL one) and another $300 2 minutes ago on LLL. In less than a week ive invested about $700 into this pretty girl. This aint no iguana I'll tell ya that. With that said, it indeed is worth every penny. But as I read all ypur previous posts, its good to see you took some advice, deff save up...money is something you are going to need.


All this doesnt include her first vet visit on Thurs...$85 that im doing for peace of mind, try to with all new pets. (Also as long as all is well and meds and such arent tacked on) good luck bud

Cheers
 
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