Stupid lizard is gravid AGAIN.

ZacharyLeesWife

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So Beanie is cooking up clutch number 3! This and the last are definitely infertile but I've lowered her temps, put her on a serious diet and she still is developing clutches way too close together. The vet doesn't really know what else to do to get more space between these clutches, except support her with liquid calcium. Her bones are back in pretty good shape, but she really needs to just stop laying so often. Any other advice?
 
The only thing I've ever known to work well is diet restriction, which you say you're already doing. Wish I had better advice.
She's still pretty chubby, maybe when we get a little bit more weight off of her she'll slow down. I can only restrict her diet so much before her bones are back at risk so she's gotta lose weight slowly.
 
My approach back when I was breeding veileds... in the dark ages... was to only feed every other day. That cut the clutch sizes down immediately from 50+ to about 30 (if memory serves). But I don't recall whether it changed the number of clutches per year.
 
When do you put her on the restricted diet? A couple of days after she lays the eggs or when?
The idea of lowering the temperature is to slow her metabolism/digestion a bit so she won't be so hungry.
 
Hello guys i need help figuing out if these are eggs or not ?
 

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When do you put her on the restricted diet? A couple of days after she lays the eggs or when?
The idea of lowering the temperature is to slow her metabolism/digestion a bit so she won't be so hungry.
She's been down to every other day, half sized feedings since before her last infertile clutch. She's actually seemingly losing the chub. She's down 25 grams. But every time I turn around, she has her gravid spots on again. She's definitely receptive, which means more eggs in 90ish days. She needs to get down to one or two clutches a year!
 
What would a half size feeding consist of?
What supplements do you use and how often for each?
It takes a while for them to actually stop producing clutches once they've been cut down sometimes.
 
What would a half size feeding consist of?
It takes a while for them to actually stop producing clutches once they've been cut down sometimes.
She's at 4-6 medium crickets, 2-6 hornworms depending on the size, or 2-3 medium dubia every other day. She's been totally cut off from mealies or superworms. She gets a random waxworm once or twice a month, but not enough to interfere with her normal diet.
 
That is still more than I fed mine when I was stopping them from producing eggs. You don't want her to get bone thin though. The idea is to keep her fat enough to be healthy but lean enough that she won't produce large clutches.
 
That is still more than I fed mine when I was stopping them from producing eggs. You don't want her to get bone thin though. The idea is to keep her fat enough to be healthy but lean enough that she won't produce large clutches.
We're both still apparently struggling with the balance! I won't let her go hungry, but I don't know how much more I can cut her back. She's had bone issues before so I can't cut her back much further without looking at osteoarthritis issues again. When I see her "sexy lizard spots" we go from every other day to daily liquid calcium.
 
I find that if I feed the female well for 2days after she lays the clutch and then cut back right away it works best.
 
The bone issue is a calcium issue and only part of the food issue when the balance of calcium is affected...if you know what I mean. I'm not a vet so it's only my opinion. I never had one have bone issues with the way I did it.
 
Did your girl dig? They could possibly be older eggs but you surely would have noticed her very dirty and hungry after she laid her clutch.
In all honesty she was very big about 3 days ago and today that i ws cleaning her cage i reslized she dropped weigh but since i normally dont bother her i really didnt notice her dirty , that ground looked like somebody been messing around with it today that i was cleaning
 
The bone issue is a calcium issue and only part of the food issue when the balance of calcium is affected...if you know what I mean. I'm not a vet so it's only my opinion. I never had one have bone issues with the way I did it.
Beanies vet considered her bone loss acute from the the first clutch which was fertile. After her second clutch, her bone strength was doing great. But that's with me seeing these clutches before they come and raising her calcium dose from twice a week to daily.
 
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