Substrate

Ya, if you plan on using it in a chameleon cage - don't!! The best substrate for your chameleon cage is none! 'Nuff said!
 
I'm not familiar with that mat so I don't know how well it holds up to being constantly wet and chameleon poop.

If you want to have something more interesting than just a floor of bare plastic, look into nice shelf liners. They are usually inexpensive, come in lots of different patterns and colors and it can't get any easier to clean.

Alternatively, you can get creative and make something like this: http://rarelypins.com/2012/12/1-store-pebbles-glue-gun-shelf-liner/ If you hot-glue pebbles to a mat you still have something interesting on the floor that will let water drain out, you can always hose down to clean, and won't pose a choking hazard or anything.

I use bare cage floors but there's no rule saying that you can't get creative and make something aesthetically pleasing that is going to hold up well in a chameleon cage.
 
I used to use that for my leopard geckos and they always got their little
claws stuck in it like velcro!!
I had to take it out and throw it away!!
 
Well shit that could be a problem... I spent about all the money I had saved over the past year on that. If i spend anymore i cant afford the cham itself!:mad:
I hate that LLLReptile won't let people review items i wouldn't of bought had i know that.
 
purplebiotch said:
Well shit that could be a problem... I spent about all the money I had saved over the past year on that. If i spend anymore i cant afford the cham itself!:mad:
I hate that LLLReptile won't let people review items i wouldn't of bought had i know that.
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return it. they're customer service is pretty good.
 
its not here yet. I'll look at it first when it gets here and see if there is something that I can do to prevent it if not though I will have to. I don't know where I would keep my cham though. I don't really want to have to make a temp cage though. And you said the geckos got their claws stuck in it. Will that still happen to a veiled cham I would think that a veiled would have considerably bigger claws than a gecko...

You are talking about this one right?
http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog...cage-packages/-/260-gallon-chameleon-package/

Also I wouldn't think that it would be any different than any other aluminum screen cage. What makes it different?
 
I'm bringing this thread back up about a new substrate...

I know that in general you're not supposed to use substrate but is the eco earth coconut fiber safe to use?
 
Its still really not the best. Not only can the cham get ahold of it and choke, with the dampness and warmth you can start to get mold that can cause more problems then you want. I know there are some people on here that still use substrates. Its all on personal experience. I do use Eco earth for the plants. It holds water very well! But good luck, and hope this helped!
 
Thanks. Forrest and sorry i couldn't help you out :(...

Anybody who's used this before and is experienced with it have any advice?
 
Its alright :) fixed everything! Now just need to start prepairing for breeding! Hope you figure something out! Always here to help!
 
Still wouldn't recommend the eco earth fiber. It is very fine so very easily picked up with the feeder while your cham is hunting. I have recently started doing something with my cage floors because white is just such an unnatural color compared to the pretty foliage of the cages - I printed off a forest floor picture (such as this one), cut it to the size of the cage bottom and laminated it. So now the bottom of my cages look much nicer and more natural but still allow drainage and aren't an ingestion or mold risk!
 
No substrate is the best substrate. I just changed the coco husk out of my veiled chameleon's home. A week ago when I bought my first cham (my baby translucent veiled chameleon) it seemed crazy to not have substrate in their homes considering how much my ball pythons improved being moved from newspaper to coco husk. In that week he has never been lower than the lowest hanging leaves of his plants and certainly never touched the floor. However he HAS accidentally mistaken coco husk for a cricket and although i was there to help him get it out of his mouth things could have gone worse and that is why I say no substrate is the best substrate especially for a veiled cham.
 
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