Switching to roaches

[Thatcher]

I want to switch back to roaches but idk how he doesn't eat them I think because they are in a feeder run cup?

 

[MissSkittles]

How did he eat them before?

 

[Thatcher]

How did he eat them before?

He ate some baby ones I put in the cup but the were small enough to crawl out

 

[jannb]

My Chams don’t like Dubai much either.

 

[Persnickety Parson's]

@jamest0o0 @Hisserdude

 

[Snuits]

So I had mine in a feeder run & he does not touch them out of it. But if I use tongs (very carefully) I know it's not recommended. Anyways he will go for it. So if your brave enough to try to feed with your fingers. Then try feeding them that way

 

[Mountain Dragon]

I just use a random bird feeder cup and u can remove it and clean it

 

[Mountain Dragon]

I just use a random bird feeder cup and u can remove it and clean it

And it works great I found it at petsmart

 

[ERKleRose]

What species have you tried?

 

[Thatcher]

What species have you tried?

Just dubias idk

 

[ERKleRose]

Try red runners! Does your cham not like dubias because of how slow they are? Try discoids then, as well! Green bananas always get a good feeding response, too!

 

[Thatcher]

Try red runners! Does your cham not like dubias because of how slow they are? Try discoids then, as well! Green bananas always get a good feeding response, too!

I actually have! I have like one left! I thought you were talking about types of dubias I'll try them more

 

[Thatcher]

I actually have! I have like one left! I thought you were talking about types of dubias I'll try them more

I'll also get some green bananas

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

It helps to remember that dubias—like most roaches—are primarily nocturnal and photophobic.
IME, when put in either kind of feeder cup they tend to cluster in a corner & play dead.
Over the past months, I've had better luck with the bird feeder cup, especially when adding a few other kinds of feeders.

He also gets less picky if he hasn't eaten in a day or two. So do I.

 

[bbyoda]

Putting the roaches on the screen directly in the shooting gallery worked for my chameleon. To @Klyde O'Scope 's point they can just huddle in cups and don't move. Along with me waiting out an initial hunger strike. Now at feeding time where I'll tap the screen to get the roach to move and Yoda will go right for it. It's become a bit of a game for me

 

[Lindasjackson]

Eustis has always loved his Dubia s until recently. I use a bird seed cup like Klyde o Scope posted and had no problem until recently. Now he won’t eat them unless they’re moving and they don’t move much. I just ordered a feeder run and I’m hoping that will help.

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

Eustis has always loved his Dubia s until recently. I use a bird seed cup like Klyde o Scope posted and had no problem until recently. Now he won’t eat them unless they’re moving and they don’t move much. ....

It's the feeding response. I have the same problem. GP is at an age/phase where he self-regulates, so I put a bunch of dubias or add some other feeders in the bird cup to keep things moving. The more there are, the more likely some will be moving. I rotate the ones that are left with fresh every day. This way I can also count B&A, and see how many he's eating.

 

[Alycia]

While roaches are great to add to the diet you don't want to feed them in over abundance. They are high in protein and are believed to be a contributing factor in the development of gout.

 

[Lindasjackson]

While roaches are great to add to the diet you don't want to feed them in over abundance. They are high in protein and are believed to be a contributing factor in the development of gout.

I’ve never heard that before. I only give him 3-4 anyway.

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

While roaches are great to add to the diet you don't want to feed them in over abundance. They are high in protein and are believed to be a contributing factor in the development of gout.

I've heard/read that said about superworms as well. With both, it depends what you're feeding them.

Dubia roaches are very efficient in processing proteins. They can store proteins that they do
not immediately use as uric acid, so they can use it again when they need it. Uric acid is toxic
in high levels. It is known to cause gout and kidney stones to animals, and when continually
fed high levels cause death. Be that as it may, you don't need to feed them high protein food
altogether. They are already a high protein feeder insect. If you just feed [your dubias] foods with normal levels of protein and enough variation, you don't need to worry about toxic uric acid level, especially when also fed other insects to the target animal. A level of 25% protein in the diet seems like an "ideal" to target when feeding roaches. Also, give them enough water to
hydrate. It seems like this will help to reduce uric acid levels as well.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj3pf72y_LzAhWEdc0KHeiNB1kQFnoECAoQAw&url=https://zoosnippets.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/how_to_breed_dubia_cockroaches_successfully.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1r5SmS6zEjbaNQmSiToK6B

And they're not all that high compared with some other "staple" feeders.