Table top fountain?? :)

[MsLachelle]

I bought a table top fountain today! Do you think it would be ok to put in with my veiled? I really want to try it out but I definately don't want anything bad to happen I would love to know what you think or if anyone else has personally tried this idea out

 

[BKFritz]

I would avoid it in a Cham cage unless you plan to clean it at least once a day. If they poo in it or crickets die in it it can cause some serious health issues should they drink the water. I think they work better for frogs and other types of reptiles, but not chameleons which is a bummer because they really are aesthetically pleasing!

 

[Mike Fisher]

I bought a table top fountain today! Do you think it would be ok to put in with my veiled? I really want to try it out but I definately don't want anything bad to happen I would love to know what you think or if anyone else has personally tried this idea out View attachment 98163

Sure a lot of people have had the same idea. It doesn't go well. Here's why.....Cham poops in water then drinks it. Obviously not good.

 

[MsLachelle]

I would avoid it in a Cham cage unless you plan to clean it at least once a day. If they poo in it or crickets die in it it can cause some serious health issues should they drink the water. I think they work better for frogs and other types of reptiles, but not chameleons which is a bummer because they really are aesthetically pleasing!

So I would have to agree I love my little guy so much I wouldn't want to do that!! But you mentioned a frog?.. I have an Asian back and a newt do you think it would be as harmful to them?

 

[MsLachelle]

Thanks mike. I kinda figured that was the case but it definately would be beautiful!

 

[Rex305]

HOW ABOUT PLACING THE FOUNTAIN in a net or screen it?

I've heard the answer NO too many times when it comes to using a waterfall for chameleons. why not come up with solution??

why not just put it inside of a net, before u place it in the enclosure?

 

[Yowzercham]

I have fountains in my cham cages. They get bleached out ...you figure out who poops in the water. the Two veils drink but dont poop...the three panthers dont drink out of them...and if properly placed so the poop doesnt drop in water...they stay poop free. If they are under branches they get poop in them. If under a cover of some sort plants or other things...no poop. It took me a while to figure out where to place them where they stay clean.....er. The drippers drip off leaves into the fountains...and it does help keep humidity up. Since I figured where to place them...they dont get that fouled...one table top I put a piece of screen over the POOL part to keep the crickets out. So far so good.

 

[Carlton]

I've heard the answer NO too many times when it comes to using a waterfall for chameleons. why not come up with solution??

why not just put it inside of a net, before u place it in the enclosure?

Even simpler would be to put the fountain outside the cage so YOU can enjoy it. After all, you are the one who wants it, not really your cham.

 

[Rex305]

Even simpler would be to put the fountain outside the cage so YOU can enjoy it. After all, you are the one who wants it, not really your cham.

No, your missing the point. people ask about the fountian not only for looks, but also to help with HUMIDITY. which is why i mentioned having it in screen, INSIDE the cage.

 

[Mike Fisher]

Here's a reality check for you.....Leave it in the cage for a couple days, then you take a drink from it. Yeah...didn't think so.

 

[Psychobunny]

I would not put it inside the cham cage.
You are going to get really tired of cleaning the poop and dead cricks out of it every day.
Chams and their feeders are enough work, why add an extra chore if you dont have to?

Otherwise, I was thinking of getting one myself for my living room, which is also the cham room, and placing it so my chams can get to it when they are out free ranging.

Also, if you do decide to get one, check the reviews before you buy.
Some of the cheaper (and even expensive) models are notorious for burning out after only a few months due to cheap, crapy pumps.

Lots of them are just junk!!

 

[Carlton]

No, your missing the point. people ask about the fountian not only for looks, but also to help with HUMIDITY. which is why i mentioned having it in screen, INSIDE the cage.

No I'm not missing the point at all. The reality is, small capacity fountains like this are not going to raise the cage humidity that much...at least not enough to be worth the trouble. If they did, putting one right next to a screen cage would help raise humidity. The idea of a fountain appeals to people, not the cham which is arboreal and wouldn't normally find a waterfall available in a tree. Years ago I used one temporarily to stimulate drinking in a very weakened jackson's. She could perch comfortably on the rim of the bowl and had splattered droplets available in front of her nose all the time. BUT I cleaned that fountain every single day. She had closed eyes much of the time so was being hand fed and she was not moving around so nothing was falling in to the water. These days I would have kept the humidity up with a fogger and hand misting, not a fountain.

I love the idea of a small waterfall in aviaries too, but they are just not worth it unless you have a one way constant flow from a clean source. Yes, many of the cheaper tabletop models don't run very long. They also vibrate a lot which might bother your cham (many species use vibration to communicate annoyance). You'll be replacing the pump fairly soon so make sure you can even remove it. If I want a fountain I make it myself using a good quality adjustable power pump, my own basins and tubing, and river rock or other decor so I can "tune" the sound of the water falling.

 

[Carlton]

Otherwise, I was thinking of getting one myself for my living room, which is also the cham room, and placing it so my chams can get to it when they are out free ranging.

Also, if you do decide to get one, check the reviews before you buy.
Some of the cheaper (and even expensive) models are notorious for burning out after only a few months due to cheap, crapy pumps.

Lots of them are just junk!!

They sure are! After buying a few and junking them I started making my own. Cheap pumps can be poorly balanced so they vibrate a lot. The basin can make the noise worse unless it's heavy. The pump noise ends up louder than the water. Buy heavier built pumps from pond or aquarium supplies. You can make the basins from all sorts of things and fill them with river rock, agates, shells, coral, driftwood, even glass or resin marbles depending on how you want it to look and sound. My best one is made from a round flat granite boulder with a basin drilled into the top. Got it from a specialist nursery. I added the adjustable flow pump and tubing, collected smooth rock from the beach. The thing must weigh over 70 lbs, but it looks great and the pump is so dampered by the mass it's silent!