Thank you everyone

Shimizoki

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First off I would like to thank all the kind members here who have answered my PMs and pointed me toward excellent reading material about chams. After much reading and thought I have decided that a Cham is not for me, I would want a bit more social reptile and fear my lifestyle would stress it out too much. I do still however love them and would want to pick one up at a later date (when I am older, have my own place, dont have classes, that stuff).

After a fair amount more reading and talking to people I think I have decided that the reptile for me is a Chinese Water Dragon. Although they get bigger than Chams, and nearly as long as a Savannah Monitor they are mostly tail and weigh almost nothing. They are still Arboreal and are much more social than the Chams. I have done tons of research and noticed that they have most of the same requirements as Chams (by the fact they are both tree dwelling reptiles... water dragons obviously like water too), but are a bit easier.

I have already purchased the lights, and substrate and am currently setting it up for a few day test run (I want to make sure the temps and humidity are right before hand). When I am satisfied I will go back to the store and pick up the Reptile, food, and supplements. For now he will be in a 30gal while I build his adult home.

On the day I purchase the dragon I will order a bulk supply of crickets and some kind of worm from one of the sponsors here. I would once again like to thank you all for helping me not to get an animal that would be unhappy. Any further comments are more than welcome.
 
It's very good of you to be able to admit that a chameleon may not be the best for you. :) By all means, I hope you stick around and keep learning. Someday a chameleon may work out for you, as you said. I know I love all reptiles, as do most people here I'm guessing, and I'd love to see pictures of and updates on your Chinese water dragon.
 
Very good choice.......I had a Water Dragon........he was called Alan and he was well cool. They still have a crest and spines, and can have very cool colours and patterns..........they are easier to look after, but make sure you have a big bowl of water (not too cold, get a heat pad).
Savannah monitors are good fun, but need more training than the Water Dragon - you have done your research well. I hope to see you back here when you are ready.......:)
 
@Liet - Sure I'd love to stick around a bit, although you guys may bot be CWD experts, there are still tons of basic reptile hubandry issues I am going to have. I'll Defiantly get pics up for you guys.

@Ataraxia - Thanks!

@DavidBuchan - At the moment I have a decent sized bowl for him that he could lay the majority of his body in. Of course when I build his big cage he will have a larger swimming pool.

@a2zcreatures - It seems there is ;)
 
Dont worry Liet, you'll get there ;)

Being how there aren't many good looking forums for CWD, I would love it if you guys could help me out with a problem.

I’ve been looking around for the past week at the local pet stores for a dragon. From what I can gather I am now placed with a choice. I can either get a Male that is over a foot long (maybe 18”), or I can get a baby that could turn out to be anything. I would love to raise one from a little guy (watch him grow from 6 to 36”), but am afraid of it becoming a female because it seems like it’s a ton of extra work and more complications and setups that need to be done.

Are females as difficult to take care of as everyone makes them out to be? (With all the egg laying and such) Then the additional calcium, needing special areas to build nests for the eggs, etc.

Basically if I get the Male:
+Definitive male.
-Will only fit in the grow-out tank I have setup for a month or 2 so I must buy and build the adult cage right away.

If I get a baby:
+Can raise from a baby
+Have time to finish designing and build the adult setup at my leisure
-50/50 shot of getting a girl.

Like I said I would prefer to raise it from a hatchling, but I have never had to deal with a female before and don’t want to risk her life because I can’t handle it. Thoughts?
 
From the little bit I was able to find online about female dragon care, it sounds as though you need to worry about similar things to those you worry about with female chameleons, in the cases of calcium intake and need for a laying bin with damp soil/sand. You could increase the calcium of the feeders by having them eat calcium-rich vegetables before feeding them to the dragon as well as using the calcium supplement powder.

However, I did not see anything about whether or not you should feed a female dragon the same amount as, less than, or more than a male and how that is affected when she is gravid. I also didn't find anything about whether or not keeping her at a lower temperature may stop her developing eggs.

Try finding a breeder and see if they can answer your questions. You can try talking to a local herpetological society if you have one. If it were me, I would probably get a juvenile so I would know the sex from the start, but I'm a very careful person. Get the enclosure set up, then decide, perhaps. :)
 
Liet, thats everything I have found... but nothing really in depth. I thought I would ask here because from what I read it was somewhat close to Chams (Like you mentioned). I have asked a few owners but they seem to have males. (I hoped there would be a few owners in here)

I already have the enclosure set up for a hatchling / Juvi... I am basically down the the deciding part right now. My mom and GF are pushing me towards a hatchling and to hope for the best because they think the little guy is much cuter.
 
If you feel that you are set up and ready, it is your choice whether you want to get a hatchling or juvenile. Hatchlings are probably more delicate of course, but I'm sure you wouldn't be the first person ever to try a hatchling as your first. I'm sure you also wouldn't be the only person who ever got a female first, if that happens. Just make sure everyone keeps an eye on the baby (which I'm sure you'll all want to do anyway ;) ). Also make sure you know a good herp vet in your area just in case.
 
I commend you on your decision! If everyone would think responsibly like you do, the world would be a better place for all the chameleons that are sold. Good luck to you with whatever choice you make.
 
Wow, great job in doing research and making your decision! I wish everyone would do the same as you. Most people buy a reptile in a pet store and then start looking into how to take care of it. Enjoy your dragon!
 
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