The Parson chameleon. Care and needs simplified.

[DeremensisBlue]

Or, there is the very real possibility that I and Bill are one and the same. Think on this, maybe I've used my alter ego here to promote myself and my brand!!!

ummm, I have to admit I never considered this twist...and denying it would be exactly what people would expect me to do....

 

[jamest0o0]

Bill strand is a shadowy cabal of the most elite Cham keepers, feasting on piles of crickets, and harboring dark chameleonic rituals. With twisted plans to turn all of our children into chameleon enthusiasts. Sick.

 

[crosscutts]

ummm, I have to admit I never considered this twist...and denying it would be exactly what people would expect me to do....

What treachery is this !!! The plot thickens . Sometimes I feel so confused and slightly betrayed .. it’s as if I do have a care sheet but I’ve been fooled into using it Buy an old cam keeper

 

[OldChamKeeper]

I'll go back to my cave now. My reputation for not being messed with is still intact. <Whispers - Buy more Dragon Strand Cages!>

 

[DeremensisBlue]

Bill strand is a shadowy cabal of the most elite Cham keepers, feasting on piles of crickets, and harboring dark chameleonic rituals. With twisted plans to turn all of our children into chameleon enthusiasts. Sick.

When we succeed in fusing the genetics that give us a parson's size parthenogenetic panther chameleon with Jackson's horns and quad sail fins you will know the final convergence is nigh.

 

[JacksJill]

Or, there is the very real possibility that I and Bill are one and the same. Think on this, maybe I've used my alter ego here to promote myself and my brand!!!

Has anyone actually seen them together?

 

[jamest0o0]

When we succeed in fusing the genetics that give us a parson's size parthenogenetic panther chameleon with Jackson's horns and quad sail fins you will know the final convergence is nigh.

You know what, I’m okay with that cult.

 

[DeremensisBlue]

Has anyone actually seen them together?

The only known photo of @OldChamKeeper. Rumor has it that he/she/it was actually on the Chameleon Breeder Podcast (before it was rebranded) with Bill, but, unfortunately, there were no witnesses of how many people were (or weren't) in the room during the recording...

 

[crosscutts]

The only known photo of @OldChamKeeper. Rumor has it that he/she/it was actually on the Chameleon Breeder Podcast (before it was rebranded) with Bill, but, unfortunately, there were no witnesses of how many people were (or weren't) in the room during the recording...
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Hmmm now I’m super curious i’m gonna get a detective on this !!

 

[OldChamKeeper]

The only known photo of @OldChamKeeper. Rumor has it that he/she/it was actually on the Chameleon Breeder Podcast (before it was rebranded) with Bill, but, unfortunately, there were no witnesses of how many people were (or weren't) in the room during the recording...
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Even if anybody did listen to the podcast, Bill is known to have a voice actor's talent for playing many different voices. He can hold a conversation with himself and make it sound like four people are in the room. <Whispers - buy more Dragon Strand cages>

Keep messing with me Bill....

 

[elizaann2]

Q- What about medical care?

A- What about it? If you can't afford to take a pet to the Vet then don't own one. Considering these animals and their set up cost more than most dogs I would hope a person owning one has enough forethought to look up and find a good Herp vet prior to owning one. The sad truth of keeping any chameleon is that at some point you will need some type of medical help. The difference between your chameleon living and dying can come down to whether or not your vet is experienced with chameleons, or instead just says "they see reptiles".

I was very lucky in my early years to meet a wonderful Vet who was more than happy to teach me about basic reptile medical care while I taught him about equipment and environmental factors. Whenever a customer came in with a sick reptile, I sent them to him. Whenever he had a sick reptile come in, he sent them to me for the right gear. I saw first hand how good he was with reptiles, but even he hated working on a chameleon "because you don't have a lot of room or time to work with."

If your animal is sick, you don't have a lot of time to wait around, or to wait until your next paycheck. You need to be able to take your critter in when it needs it. If you can't do that, don't buy one. Also don't give me that crap about "My animal will be fine, I've got the perfect set up blah blah blah" because all your animal has to do is fall and you end up with a vet visit like this....
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He fell. Nothing more. Busted his middle horn well into the base and despite a solid attempt by a great herp vet and having an owner more than capable of caring for his rehab, he died. Crap happens with any pet you keep, be prepared for the occasional vet visit and even if your Parson is healthy take in a fecal sample once a year and have it checked for parasites. Personally I give my animals a dose of Panacur once a year (three doses at two week intervals) as a routine.

Q- Do I have to let my animal go through brumation?

A- No. I've kept Parsons for years without letting them go into that semi hibernative state. Same with tortoises. I've kept tortoises for years that never hibernated and thrived. It's just about providing them the environment they need to stay active.



So, that synopsis:

1 - Always set up your habitat first and make sure everything is working before you buy that Parson. Seriously.

2 - Consider a long cage instead of a traditional tall one. A size of 48"L X 48" H X 24" deep is fine for a young solo animal up to about 500g, That fact right there will help a lot of you getting your first Parson. Don't go bonkers on the size of the cage.

3- I recommend a single quad fixture for that size cage. One bulb should be a plant light and another a UVB bulb. I'd go with a 6% bulb for any cage 48" or less in height. Bigger cages I use the 12% bulbs or if they are densely planted. Use your head when deciding that. Put the fixture on a timer and give the animal 10-12 hours of it daily.

4- You need a Mist King. None of this " I'll use a hand sprayer for now" crap. Make sure you know how much water your set up can handle before doing this. You should set the timer to give 2-3 long mistings at 5 mins each with additional mistings set for 1 minute throughout the day. I don't mist at night. 2-3 times a week a good long soak in the shower for 20+ minutes is really important. If you have a set up that lets you just turn the water on for however long you like, more power to you.

5- Temps. I keep my animals indoors at 75-88F using a gradient. The Quad fixture puts out a ton of heat so it is warmer up top and gets cooler down below. My Parsons just go where they feel comfortable. Providing that gradient is my job as a keeper. How you do it is up to you, you just need to have it. Night temps stay above 55F outside but indoors my animals are never below 70F. This is the reason why they will never go into brumation.

6- Humidity. I let it fluctuate. I don't stress over it. The Mist King and damp potted plants tend to give them enough Humidity from my experience. Just make sure you have some air flow going through the cage in some capacity.

7- Feeding. I offer food daily. They don't always eat daily. Sometimes they'll eat five days in a row and then not want anything for a day or two. I try to use hanging feeders but also cup feed from my hand. I do not free range any insects in their cages. I use Repashy calcium with medium D3 since my animals are mostly kept indoors and lightly dust their food items with it three days a week. Once a week I use Herptivite lightly one a few feeders. Once a week I use Brewer's yeast mixed 50/50 with bee pollen. These chams do seem to have a need for more B1 than other species. I go light on all my dusting and there are some days I don't dust the feeders. All feeders are gut loaded fresh veggies.

As for my animals, I use Orange head roaches mostly and really huge super worms. I offer a mouse fuzzy twice a month. Other feeders I obtain randomly or when available.

8- Handling. I don't. Pretty simple. In truth I only pick them up to shower them. The rest of the time I leave them alone, to quote a friend they are more like living art and art should just be looked at and appreciated for what it is.

I do hope this gives some of you young and coming Parson keepers the basic info you are looking for while cutting through the B.S. from some of the more elite keepers out there.

Some good references:

Lighting - Todd over at lightyourreptiles.com- His quad fixtures are great.
Caging - Bill over at Dragon Strand - His Atrium cage is the only one like it out there and they are well made.
Feeders - Nick Barta over at full throttle feeders. - Talk about a variety of food items.

Those three guys take care of their customers, know their stuff, and would have made keeping a Parson much easier if they would have been around back in the 80's and 90's with their products and experience. So right there as a new Parson keeper you have some advantages over me.

In conclusion, a Parson is a fairly hardy chameleon but ONLY if you provide it with what it needs from the start. Lastly, always do your best to buy from a reputable source. That will give you the best chance for getting a healthy animal to start out with. Do check on the reputation of anybody you decide to buy one of these great animals from. if you start out with a sick animal, you may not be as lucky as I was.

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"What the F*** are you staring at! Get outta my sight!" - Atlas

@crosscutts I found it! Thank you again

 

[crosscutts]

@crosscutts I found it! Thank you again

No thank you now I’m gonna add it to my album so I don’t lose it again good job secret investigator

 

[philip31]

Caring for Parson's chameleons involves providing a spacious enclosure with plenty of branches, plants, and hiding spots. Maintain proper humidity levels and offer a varied diet of gut-loaded insects. Regularly clean the enclosure and provide UVB lighting. Monitor their health closely for any signs of stress or illness.

 

[philip31]

Even if anybody did listen to the podcast, Bill is known to have a voice actor's talent for playing many different voices. He can hold a conversation with himself and make it sound like four people are in the room. <Whispers - buy more Dragon Strand cages> GB Whatsapp

Bill's podcast showcases his exceptional voice talent, creating engaging dialogues as if multiple people are present. His unique skill adds a dynamic touch to the show. <Whispers - buy more Dragon Strand.

 

[crosscutts]

Bill's podcast showcases his exceptional voice talent, creating engaging dialogues as if multiple people are present. His unique skill adds a dynamic touch to the show. <Whispers - buy more Dragon Strand.

Sadly, old Cam keeper has passed. Just thought I’d let you know.