Tiger Chameleons
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What exactly is a tiger chameleon?
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ChameleonsInMyHouse
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Archaius tigris is still fairly newly discovered and is therefore not available for import/export yet to my knowledge.
jandie
New Member
a smaller species of cham....
http://www.arkive.org/tiger-chameleon/archaius-tigris/#text=Description
Picture of a white tiger:
Yellow with spots:
Just very recently become interested in them, but can't seem to find anything "advertised" regarding any kept in the US....
Classified as Endangered (EN) on the IUCN Red List (3) and listed on Appendix II of CITES ....but i don't know exactly what that means...lol.... I would think if they're endangered....some sort of attempts would be made to increase numbers....
http://www.arkive.org/tiger-chameleon/archaius-tigris/#text=Description
Picture of a white tiger:
Yellow with spots:
Just very recently become interested in them, but can't seem to find anything "advertised" regarding any kept in the US....
Classified as Endangered (EN) on the IUCN Red List (3) and listed on Appendix II of CITES ....but i don't know exactly what that means...lol.... I would think if they're endangered....some sort of attempts would be made to increase numbers....
Cainschams
New Member
Probably not a possibility, but I have to ask....
Does anyone know of any places that might import or carry tiger chameleons?
There are very few being worked with over seas. Not even sure how that one group is doing that were pictured on the forums a while ago. To answer your question though, no. If there were Chuck G would be bullying them to export him some LOL!!!
Very very neat looking chameleons though.
jandie
New Member
LOL...so i should first work on chuck and then see where he can get with it? ;P
mardithepanther
New Member
holy crap! thats freaking sick!..........hahah tiger....panther...
jandie
New Member
maybe cause they think they're big stuff....
doesn't that chin "thrust" look just crack you up?
Cainschams
New Member
Yeah, you better start working on Chuck because he would probably buy every single one!! LOL!!!
Here is a thread with the species and some background information.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/little-tigris-30629/
jandie
New Member
awesome! thanks for the link!!!
Chris Anderson
Dr. House of Chameleons
No, they were described in 1820 its just that in 2010, based on their genetic relationship to other chameleon species, the genus Archaius (which was originally described in 1845 but later synopsized with another genus) was resurrected and this species was placed in it as its sole member.
They are being worked with in limited numbers in Europe but they are not available in the US currently. The Seychelles has not commonly exported this species and the captive bloodlines are very limited from what I understand.
Chris
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ChameleonsInMyHouse
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thats goofy lol, from my understanding they were considered calumma and then replaced in the genus archaius right? when were they discovered? i thought it was one of the newest chameleons discovered. sorry man, i must have just forgot or misread the article. its been quite sometime.
Chris Anderson
Dr. House of Chameleons
They were first described in 1820 as Chamaeleo tigris and while they are currently classified as Archaius tigris, they have previously been classified as Lophosaura tigris and Calumma tigris. The genus a species is placed in is based on our understanding of their relation to other species and as we learn more about their relationships, the genus they are placed in can change. That said, this species has been officially known to science (i.e. described) since 1820.
Chris
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ChameleonsInMyHouse
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thanks man. i have heard of species being categorized into another genus' before, but now i understand why. as far as tigris, i never knew they were registered that far back ago, maybe its the change in genus that makes it seem to me like it is recently discovered lol
chameleonneeds
Avid Member
Lol Chuck, Id give up my kidney for you but I also like these chams, so if Im loosing a kidney I'l take them for myself
Ah but wow it will be a LONG time since anything like this comes close to south africa.
I will stick to my rare trioceros and pardalis for now
Ah but wow it will be a LONG time since anything like this comes close to south africa.
I will stick to my rare trioceros and pardalis for now
eisentrauti
Avid Member
The papers which were given around when they were sold here aren't good enough to get a CITES export permit. So they wont be every available (legally) in the USA
jandie
New Member
from what i understood, there were some already brought into the u.s., so i'm not sure if that was a change in the CITES permit or not since that time (i will be completely honest in a lack of knowledge of CITES and requirements and such...); however, i can't seem to find anything further on what happened with those or if there was any success in breeding in captivity or general acclimation to captivity....
i have to go with chuck on the "#1 on the wish list".... lol...so, guys and gals, how do we make that happen?
eisentrauti
Avid Member
I doubt that there's anything left. There are some "projects" with failed massively in the US, eg what happened with Langerwerfs thamnobates clutches or with the TONS of parsoniis...
There are still ways to get them in the US, but not legally
There are still ways to get them in the US, but not legally
