yeah that’s in a 40 gallon so no front to close and replicates EXACTLY what the animal was exposed to. Just had the front top mesh panel up. Try again.
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yeah that’s in a 40 gallon so no front to close and replicates EXACTLY what the animal was exposed to. Just had the front top mesh panel up. Try again.
CamoChameleonsHuman
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Switch air with UVB and switch water with glass
Note how it is not amplified. The UVB rays from the bulb are losing power at the same rate that they would if traveling straight down. Exponentially.
Note how it is not amplified. The UVB rays from the bulb are losing power at the same rate that they would if traveling straight down. Exponentially.
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JackRipper
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Hmm must be a funny angle then cause it looks like you are reaching up into the enclosure. Why are you getting a higher reading outside of the tank than inside? Could it be the black paint on the outside of the tank or the backing inside the tank? Your doing great keep up the good work.
Lennoncham
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Ok so based off your theory that the uv keeps getting multiplied infinitely insinde the tank when the uv light is on.
I have 2 paraodeura androyensis dwarf geckos in a 12x12x12 terrarium with all glass sides. I have a 5.0 uvb bulb placed right ontop of the tank. I know way overdoing it but I use the bulbs that I changeout of the Cham cages every 6 months so they have less uv. I do not have a meter to test Uvi. But they should still have enough of a uv output for that small of a tank. How have they not been killed from the infinite uvb bouncing around?
I have 2 paraodeura androyensis dwarf geckos in a 12x12x12 terrarium with all glass sides. I have a 5.0 uvb bulb placed right ontop of the tank. I know way overdoing it but I use the bulbs that I changeout of the Cham cages every 6 months so they have less uv. I do not have a meter to test Uvi. But they should still have enough of a uv output for that small of a tank. How have they not been killed from the infinite uvb bouncing around?
JackRipper
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Ha I figured it out.. you are getting higher readings outside of the tank because the glass is exposed as a solid surface to reflect while the inside of your tank is covered wall to wall with earth or wood which as we all know does not reflect UV as well as a non porous or flat hard surfaces but actually does a fair job of absorbing most of the rays. Still great work thank you for putting in the effort. Do you have a empty glass tank you could test?
Lennoncham
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Who keeps a chameleon in an empty glass tank?
JackRipper
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Maybe the water helps lol besides I never said infinite I said uv does dissipate but also will bounce until 100% dissipated . Also I said the sun will kill them in a glass tank and that a bulb is nowhere near as powerful as our sun however long term over exposure may lead to unwanted side efects.
JackRipper
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Are we trolling again? If you want to run the experiment and get the results i did then run it the way I did. Lol come on buddy
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Lennoncham
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No. Your saying get a reading from what the animal would be exposed to then ask for a reading from and empty glass tank. Who keeps a Cham in an empty tank?
JackRipper
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Idk buddy I'm sure it's been done. But you will never get higher readings if the glass is completely covered In foam and dirt. Think about it this whole thing is about how glass reflects uv for the love of Pete don't you see it lol.. the foam and dirt absorb the rays voiding the experiment completely lmao
Lennoncham
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Sry I used the word I infinite to describe what you said here.
I do agree that you shouldn’t put a animal in a glass tank outside.
wtf are you talking about? why would anyone have a glass tank that is covered wall to wall with wood or earth? An empty glass tank doesn’t represent “what the animal is actually exposed to” as you stipulated before.
I proved your point was wrong. You want to argue that’s not the case? Provide your own proof! This is how science works.
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JackRipper
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Ok umm
umm that's water... not glass. So your saying that 100% of uv passes thru glass just at a slightly different angle same way it does water?
Lennoncham
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Go look at the picture of the persons tank that you started this over. The back and 2 sides are covered in spray foam and coco fibre.
JackRipper
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You proved that spray foam is absorbent to a small degree.. the foam walls on the inside of the tank. Your results actually proved me to be correct lmao.. look at the reflective surfaces in every pic you took. Those with flat more solid walls gave you a higher reading. Good try tho
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JackRipper
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There's still the front glass and not much ventilation. Nothing like a screen enclosure.
CamoChameleonsHuman
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I said replace air with UVB and Water with glass. In this representation the refracted angle would be the UVA
JackRipper
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It would be nice if you had a solar meter to check the inside of your cage then pull the screen open and measure outside the tank I think you would see a difference
JackRipper
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Sorry it doesn't compute.
That’s exactly what I did and you’re saying it’s wrong. Quit moving the goalposts.
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