Veil Turns brown and black
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camimom
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Zen
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Heres some information that can help with ZEN
Your Chameleon -Veil Chameleon
Handling -once a day
Feeding - 2 crickets in morning and 3 in afternoon
Supplements- Use calcium on baby crickets every other day
Watering - used drip system till it got to moist so i spray down leafs and tank
Fecal Description - white yellow and brown
No parasites
History - lived with others
Cage Info: is a ecoterrium
Cage Type - glass and screen top
Lighting - red light for night and white light for daylight but use both
Temperature - lowest spot is 60 highest is 90
Humidity - around 30-40
Plants - fake and some leafs outside
Placement - middle of my dresser were my stereo used to be currently no vent but gets enough
Location - Southwestern Ontario
Your Chameleon -Veil Chameleon
Handling -once a day
Feeding - 2 crickets in morning and 3 in afternoon
Supplements- Use calcium on baby crickets every other day
Watering - used drip system till it got to moist so i spray down leafs and tank
Fecal Description - white yellow and brown
No parasites
History - lived with others
Cage Info: is a ecoterrium
Cage Type - glass and screen top
Lighting - red light for night and white light for daylight but use both
Temperature - lowest spot is 60 highest is 90
Humidity - around 30-40
Plants - fake and some leafs outside
Placement - middle of my dresser were my stereo used to be currently no vent but gets enough
Location - Southwestern Ontario
camimom
New Member
Oh boy ok.
Dont handle him so much, this can stress him out.
supplementing- calcium without d3 every feeding, calcium with d3 twice a month, multivitamin twice a month.
a yellow urate means they are dehydrated.
you should be misting 4-5 times per day.
get rid of that red night light, you dont need it, they need darkness to sleep and temp drops at night.
do you have a UVB bulb? if not you need one asap, as without this they can develop MBD.
do you have amale? how old is this cham?
90 basking temp is high, even for most adults.
how big is the cage?
slinko9
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How old is you guy??
If he is young you arent feeding him enough!!!
Should get into the habit of using a Calcium supplement every day and a Calcium with d3 every second week and a vitamin every second week!!!!
Put the drip system back in as well as spraying the plants a few times a day,,,,letting it dry out in between mistings,,,,I have to soak excess water out 2 or 3 times a day,,,,its the nature of the beast if ya dont have drainage!!!!
Buy a Hygrometer to measure humidity,,,might as well get a couple thermometers at the same time!!!
Invest in a cage with some height to it!!!
NO NIGHT LIGHT!!!!! they need to get a good sleep at night!!!
As for lights,,,,I hope one is supplying UVB!!!!
Get real plants,,,its easier to m aintain the humidity!!!
Good Luck!!!!
And Welcome To Fantasy Island,,,,er,,,ummm,,,I mean to The Chameleon Forums!!!!
If he is young you arent feeding him enough!!!
Should get into the habit of using a Calcium supplement every day and a Calcium with d3 every second week and a vitamin every second week!!!!
Put the drip system back in as well as spraying the plants a few times a day,,,,letting it dry out in between mistings,,,,I have to soak excess water out 2 or 3 times a day,,,,its the nature of the beast if ya dont have drainage!!!!
Buy a Hygrometer to measure humidity,,,might as well get a couple thermometers at the same time!!!
Invest in a cage with some height to it!!!
NO NIGHT LIGHT!!!!! they need to get a good sleep at night!!!
As for lights,,,,I hope one is supplying UVB!!!!
Get real plants,,,its easier to m aintain the humidity!!!
Good Luck!!!!
And Welcome To Fantasy Island,,,,er,,,ummm,,,I mean to The Chameleon Forums!!!!
camimom
New Member
Slinko - easy on the exclamation points.
Zen - unfortunately there are a lot of problems with your current setup that needs to be addressed asap for your chameleon to have a healthy life. Without the changes we are recommending he could get some very serious illnesses and die quickly.
Could you give us some more information?
How old is your chameleon?
How long have you had him?
Are you sure it's a male or is it possibly a female?
How big is the cage?
Do you use a UVB bulb specifically?
What do you feed your crickets?
What supplementation powders do you use and how often?
Zen - unfortunately there are a lot of problems with your current setup that needs to be addressed asap for your chameleon to have a healthy life. Without the changes we are recommending he could get some very serious illnesses and die quickly.
Could you give us some more information?
How old is your chameleon?
How long have you had him?
Are you sure it's a male or is it possibly a female?
How big is the cage?
Do you use a UVB bulb specifically?
What do you feed your crickets?
What supplementation powders do you use and how often?
Zen
New Member
More Info
hey everyone he is only 2 months if anything 1 and a half
How long have you had him? over a Month
Are you sure it's a male or is it possibly a female? Male because of the spike on his hand
Do you use a UVB bulb specifically yes and its connected to a clamp lamp this is the lamp that is always on or should i use the daylight all the time?
What do you feed your crickets i feed them carrots strawberries potatoes
What supplementation powders do you use and how often just calcium
hey everyone he is only 2 months if anything 1 and a half
How long have you had him? over a Month
Are you sure it's a male or is it possibly a female? Male because of the spike on his hand
Do you use a UVB bulb specifically yes and its connected to a clamp lamp this is the lamp that is always on or should i use the daylight all the time?
What do you feed your crickets i feed them carrots strawberries potatoes
What supplementation powders do you use and how often just calcium
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Veiled Chameleon Care Basics
Temperature:
Baby/juvenile (<9 months): ambient 72-80F (22-26C), basking 85F (29C)
Adult males: ambient 75-80F (23-26C), basking 90-95F (32-35C)
Ambient temperature refers to the temperature of the lower part of the cage. Basking temperature refers to the highest temperature point accessible to chameleons for basking (the absorbing of heat from an external overhead source to regulate body temperature and promote digestion and healthy metabolism in reptiles). Nighttime temperatures can safely drop down to 60F (15C) so no external heat source is needed at night unless temperatures drop lower than that. In that case a ceramic heat emitter or space heater should be used since light bulbs (even black or red ones) disrupt sleep.
Humidity: 40-70% should be achieved by several misting sessions a day using a hand mister over all areas of the cage. Live plants help increase humidity.
Cage size:
Screen Cage (length x width x height):
- 16x16x30" (40x40x76cm) - Juveniles/Sub-Adults
- 18x18x36" (45x45x90cm) - Adult female minimum
- 24x24x48" (60x60x120cm) - Adult male minimum or adult female
Lighting:
All lighting and heat should be from outside the cage on the top shining down. There should be 12 hours of UVB light, along with 12 hours of darkness for proper rest. A UVB bulb (5.0 or 10.0 intensity) is necessary to synthesize vitamin D3 in the skin to promote absorption of dietary calcium. UVB bulbs only emit UVB rays for 6-8 months, even if they’re still shining, so they must be replaced at least twice a year. A basking bulb creates the heat gradient so that your cold-blooded chameleon can regulate its body temperature by moving into warmer or cooler zones as needed. When choosing a basking bulb start with a 60watt bulb and monitor temperature closely. Higher wattage bulbs are hotter in temperature and vice versa so chose the appropriate wattage bulb based on the temperatures achieved. A bulb that makes it too hot can burn your chameleon badly from several inches away and through the screen.
Feeding:
Neonates: as any small crickets as they can eat several times a day
Juveniles 4-6 months of age: 10-12 small crickets daily
Juveniles 6-12 months of age: 10-12 medium crickets every other day
Adults over 12 months of age: 7-10 medium-large crickets every other day
Chameleons should be fed in the first half of the day to give them time to bask and digest their food properly. Crickets need to be properly gutloaded with calcium rich vegetables (turnip greens, mustard greens, papaya, etc) several hours before being fed to your chameleon. Inadequate dietary calcium leads to metabolic bone disease, a very serious illness. Commercially available gutloads (such as Fluker Farms Cricket Food) are not balanced or sufficient for good nutrition. Read more on gutloading here: https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/ferretinmyshoes/446-basics-gutloading.html
Supplementation:
Calcium and other vitamins are very important to your chameleon's health. Feeder insects should be lightly dusted with powdered supplement before being fed to your chameleon.
Calcium (without D3 or phosphorus) at nearly every feeding, Multivitamin once every 2 weeks, Calcium with D3 once every 2 weeks
OR with Repashy Calcium Plus every feeding
Hydration & Misting:
The cage should be misted at least twice a day, drying out completely between misting sessions. This raises relative humidity as well as stimulates your chameleon to want to drink. Water should be provided by means of a dripper (not a waterfall, not a water bowl). The dripper should be placed on the top of the cage so that the water droplets drip down onto leaves of the plants in the cage so your chameleon can drink from the puddles on the leaves. Chameleons do not recognize standing water as a drinking source.
Temperature:
Baby/juvenile (<9 months): ambient 72-80F (22-26C), basking 85F (29C)
Adult males: ambient 75-80F (23-26C), basking 90-95F (32-35C)
Ambient temperature refers to the temperature of the lower part of the cage. Basking temperature refers to the highest temperature point accessible to chameleons for basking (the absorbing of heat from an external overhead source to regulate body temperature and promote digestion and healthy metabolism in reptiles). Nighttime temperatures can safely drop down to 60F (15C) so no external heat source is needed at night unless temperatures drop lower than that. In that case a ceramic heat emitter or space heater should be used since light bulbs (even black or red ones) disrupt sleep.
Humidity: 40-70% should be achieved by several misting sessions a day using a hand mister over all areas of the cage. Live plants help increase humidity.
Cage size:
Screen Cage (length x width x height):
- 16x16x30" (40x40x76cm) - Juveniles/Sub-Adults
- 18x18x36" (45x45x90cm) - Adult female minimum
- 24x24x48" (60x60x120cm) - Adult male minimum or adult female
Lighting:
All lighting and heat should be from outside the cage on the top shining down. There should be 12 hours of UVB light, along with 12 hours of darkness for proper rest. A UVB bulb (5.0 or 10.0 intensity) is necessary to synthesize vitamin D3 in the skin to promote absorption of dietary calcium. UVB bulbs only emit UVB rays for 6-8 months, even if they’re still shining, so they must be replaced at least twice a year. A basking bulb creates the heat gradient so that your cold-blooded chameleon can regulate its body temperature by moving into warmer or cooler zones as needed. When choosing a basking bulb start with a 60watt bulb and monitor temperature closely. Higher wattage bulbs are hotter in temperature and vice versa so chose the appropriate wattage bulb based on the temperatures achieved. A bulb that makes it too hot can burn your chameleon badly from several inches away and through the screen.
Feeding:
Neonates: as any small crickets as they can eat several times a day
Juveniles 4-6 months of age: 10-12 small crickets daily
Juveniles 6-12 months of age: 10-12 medium crickets every other day
Adults over 12 months of age: 7-10 medium-large crickets every other day
Chameleons should be fed in the first half of the day to give them time to bask and digest their food properly. Crickets need to be properly gutloaded with calcium rich vegetables (turnip greens, mustard greens, papaya, etc) several hours before being fed to your chameleon. Inadequate dietary calcium leads to metabolic bone disease, a very serious illness. Commercially available gutloads (such as Fluker Farms Cricket Food) are not balanced or sufficient for good nutrition. Read more on gutloading here: https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/ferretinmyshoes/446-basics-gutloading.html
Supplementation:
Calcium and other vitamins are very important to your chameleon's health. Feeder insects should be lightly dusted with powdered supplement before being fed to your chameleon.
Calcium (without D3 or phosphorus) at nearly every feeding, Multivitamin once every 2 weeks, Calcium with D3 once every 2 weeks
OR with Repashy Calcium Plus every feeding
Hydration & Misting:
The cage should be misted at least twice a day, drying out completely between misting sessions. This raises relative humidity as well as stimulates your chameleon to want to drink. Water should be provided by means of a dripper (not a waterfall, not a water bowl). The dripper should be placed on the top of the cage so that the water droplets drip down onto leaves of the plants in the cage so your chameleon can drink from the puddles on the leaves. Chameleons do not recognize standing water as a drinking source.
