Veiled breeding question

[TB0880]

My female is showing her robin egg blues' but Ican also see eggs in he back side. Is it to lay for breeding to be receptive? She doesn't seem upset if he comes near but the male is a lil fella only about 5mo. She is about 16mo. She has a lay box just wondering if it would be in my best interest to continue to try and get a copulation.

 

[RealIzeRecognIze]

Why breed them?

 

[TB0880]

Well if she is going to have to lay eggs why make her lay infertile eggs if I have the ability to allow her to have a viable clutch? My research shows its healthier on the female to lay fertilized eggs rather than infertile eggs. So I see it as not why would I but why wouldn't I.

 

[jannb]

Laying infertile eggs is much easier on your female. The eggs don't drain as much calcium for your females body, they are smaller and easier to lay and your female shouldn't gain as much weight if you are feeding her correctly. I have a few blogs linked for you below that you should fine helpful.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/some-thoughts-breeding-2612/
http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleon.blogspot.com/2007/12/keeping-female-veiled.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blo...-keepers-young-veiled-panther-chameleons.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/jannb/345-egg-laying-laying-bin.html

 

[TB0880]

None of those links speak on a time frame. I am needing to know if once I can visually see eggs on her hip area are the eggs to far along for fertilization. I have no doubt in my ability to breed and maintain a clutch. But I don't know the cycle of a female yet. My pythons I know if they have ovulated chances of my breeding actually fertilizing eggs drops drastically so was curious as to when chameleons do the same. Or if the female knows and will not allow copulation?

 

[camimom]

I think that if the eggs are obviously visable at this point, she is too far along in their production to allow breeding to occur.

 

[TB0880]

Thank you i was assuming that myself as well. Maybe round 2 thank you.

 

[ISA my Veiled]

Yeah I agree with camimom, it would be way to fa along if she has already produced the eggs. That is like a 7 month along pregnant lady wanting twins when she has one in her tummy lol impossible. But good thought process behind it, good to ask than to never know

 

[TB0880]

It's all about knowledge with these reptiles lol.. I figured it was but like you said asking was my only way of knowing for sure. Thank you all for the insight I will give it a try in a few months after she lays these.

 

[camimom]

asking is better than doing something wrong.

and if you are careful with what you feed her, you can reduce the number of eggs she lays.

my female laid 38 fertlized eggs, and so far, hasnt liad a retained clutch yet.

 

[ISA my Veiled]

It's all about knowledge with these reptiles lol.. I figured it was but like you said asking was my only way of knowing for sure. Thank you all for the insight I will give it a try in a few months after she lays these.

yeah that is the great part about this forum, being able to ask the more experienced people who know a lot more than myself lol