Weight of Panther Chamleons

[stevereecy]

Steve, don't mean to hijack the thread, but I had a question for you on your female's pic. I notice she's kind of flabby/swollen around the neck. I have a female ambilobe that is kind of the same way, sometimes when she gets startled, that flabby part swells almost to her front legs. I've been wondering if it is some sort of infection or edema, but she doesn't show any other signs of sickness. Yours is the first other pic I've seen with something similar.

Good eyes. It is edma. And its exactly as you describe. I got her that way a month ago and the photo was taken a few days later. I'm trying to correct it with her diet now that she's under my custody. Kelp powder is supposed to work because it has iodine. But I'm finding that cutting back on the supplementation itself, except calcium, is slowly doing the job.

Steve

 

[stevereecy]

Steve, from what I understand large parents would not necessarily suggest larger babies It would be interesting to hear others opinions.

I could write a book about what I don't know about genetics. But I have a friend who is "big boned" and one of his kids is big boned too. Tall folks tend to have tall kids. I think that if panther chams can develop specific color morphs due to geographic isolation and selection...potentially over relatively short geographical distances, than I guess you could have pods of size morphs too.

I once heard a legend about one shipment of unusually large Veileds...deemed to be giant morphs...imported into central Florida years ago. I've often wondered if you could refine the genes of Florida Veileds over time to reconstruct that line. But who knows?

Steve

 

[Julirs]

Here's Nippy! Hamming it up for the camera. She is an absolutely sweet girl, very docile, very spoiled! She makes me squirt water right into her mouth from the spray bottle! "Makes me!"-oh what we do for these little guys! (She is not edemic in these photos-only a bit caught off guard by the camera-I do have a female Veiled that gets gular edema sometimes while gravid that goes away after laying.)

 

[stevereecy]

Here's Nippy! Hamming it up for the camera. She is an absolutely sweet girl, very docile, very spoiled! She makes me squirt water right into her mouth from the spray bottle! "Makes me!"-oh what we do for these little guys! (She is not edemic in these photos-only a bit caught off guard by the camera-I do have a female Veiled that gets gular edema sometimes while gravid that goes away after laying.)

Nippy's beautiful. Not to take the thread off-topic because I'd like folks to chime in with their weights (or extreme weight) observations, but it just kills me that many people asume that these females are "plain" or not "pretty". Its odd to me.

Steve

 

[AFH]

Thanks, Steve. That's what I thought. I've cut back on her vitamin supplements and feed her high moisture silkworms, but I understand it takes quite a bit of time for it resolve.

And so this isn't so off topic, my 1 year old Ambilobe is about 150g.

 

[Colleen]

on jan 14/08 my male ambilobe was 214 grams he is about a year and 1/2.I havnt weighed the pair that we just got yet.