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[chamchamchicken]

Hello, everyone, new to the forums, new to chams (4 day owner)

Current creature count:

1 male veiled cham (Hero/Baymax) (like 7 inches) <--not sure age ATM
1 female veiled cham (Cloud) (like 3 inches) <--must be a noob guessing weeks
2 chickens
4.23 childern (one still cooking) others aged 1,2,3,4 (4 and 2 are adopted)
I think i am up to 67 housed crickets and at least 5 escaped ones.

Current tank (DO NOT JUDGE ME but the chams were a spontanius purchase and i bought a kit with chams on it and well after getting home everything was wrong, lol, as per formus (I BLAIM ZILLA)

1) Zilla 18x18x24 glass (will be a cricket tank soon enough changing to a wire one on pay day)
2) one 25 heat lamp (need more from what i understand current temp is 80ish
3) coconut bedding moistened and then covered by aquarium rocks
4) hibiscus plant full size of enclosure
5) manually misting chams and hibiscus twice a day
6) 5 roaming calcium sprayed poorly gut loaded crickets running around cage.
7)false sence of security on how well i did as a beginner prior posting in this forum.

PLANS:

1) making small cricket farm for chickens and chams

2) larger in-closure

3) more lights

4) auto mister

5) maybe babies and such

will send some picks soon, but just wanted to get this on here

I have some concerns about the little female because she eats very little even when left solo in a separate area with the crickets.

the male is happy and active

 

[ridgebax1]

Here is a link to the care sheets for veiled chams:https://www.chameleonforums.com/care/caresheets/veiled/
You need to separate the chams, they cannot be housed together. You are ok as far as heat but you need to provide a UV light source they need this to properly metabolize calcium.

I would also suggest you search for Pigglett79's blog and Sandrachameleon's blog,they both have helpful information regarding feeding and feeders.

 

[jannb]

Welcome to the forums. This is a great place to learn about chameleons. I keep veileds and they are such fun chameleons to work with. They show so much personality. Ridgeback is correct they will definitely need separate housing and kept out of view of each other. UVB lights and the proper supplements are a must to keep them healthy. The link above is a good care sheet and I'm also attaching my blog below for new keepers. This is how I have has success with my veileds.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blo...-keepers-young-veiled-panther-chameleons.html

 

[chamchamchicken]

What will happen if i do not keep them apart?

the male seems to not care at all about her.

actually she was putting on the angry display and he just walked over her.

that was day one.

now day 5 they will be right next to each other all day within an inch of each other.

 

[DragoLikesReptiles]

Wait, are you trying to mate a Veiled chameleon that 3 inches long and another that is 7 inches long together?! Your female sounds about 2 months and your male sounds about 8 months. If kept together, they will mate too young and your female can't even produce eggs at her age. You NEED to wait til these animals you have should be about a year old before you even try breeding. Females aren't ready to breed sometimes and that results in the female hissing and gaping at the male. Please do your research first before you try these things. They should have a screened cage about 36" H, 18" L and W for male and your female when she is about the size of the male now (the male should be upgraded to a XL Reptibreeze size when he is full grown. Thanks, Drago.

 

[APailthorp]

With two veiled chameleons in any enclosure, one is winning and the other is in submission, even if you can't tell. The stressed one will eventually die from not getting enough food, access to basking location, and just plain stress. You are going to have to separate them, or one of them will separate from life. Babies in a pet shop can tolerate living together for a while, but it is not going to work out for growing chams.

 

[JlaPinska]

hate to say it but they are right. you cant keep them in the same enclosure, theyre way too territorial. the only time they can be housed together is when they are ready for breeding and then you have to separate them again. Good news is the female can be housed in a slightly smaller cage than the male. What brand of screen cage were you getting?

 

[Scout]

Should have done some research first, chameleons are killer lizards. They'll fight to the death, or one will become bullied and that will in turn lead to disease and infection. I would listen to the previous posters and separate them. You can find videos of chameleons picking each other up and throwing each other to the ground. You don't want that do you?