We're all 'shed-ing' these days...

Remkon

Chameleon Enthusiast
I'm making preparations to build a ~6m2 shed in my backyard for my Reptiles (and future addition(s)) and tools.
Reasons for this project are because my wife wants to use the chameleon room as a guestroom and she doesn't like insects in the house all that much... My motivation obviously is that I will have more space for my animals and will have less work as I can get a bigger reservoir for water and will have drainage water just run into the backyard. I will also not have to worry about escapee insects anymore or molding in the room.

I may update this thread as work progresses.

Below a picture of the shed I've ordered (2weeks ago), personally I think it looks awesome, the only downside are the big doors and windows on the front that will obviously leave less space place stuff against.
On a positive note the big doors will allow so much ventilation on a hot day!

Delivery on the shed takes around 6 weeks so I got plenty of time to clear some ground in the backyard, lay a proper foundation for my shed and plan the interior.
Right now I ran a electricity cable from the house to where the shed will be, which made me go to a place of the house you otherwise never get to see and will rather avoid... the crawlspace.
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As I'm a complete gardening noob I wanted to do it as simple as possible without having to spend many hundreds of euro's on a concrete foundation. I came across TTE-system foundation that looks easy to place, is used for parking lots (apparently) so allows a big load per m2 and will offer stability since the tiles link into each other. The tiles are made of recycled material and have a hard rubbery feel.
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(Googled picture of the foundation, not my work)
You can fill the holes or leave them open, I think I'll leave em open or possibly add some gravel.
It will be awesome for drainage.

I will isolate the shed on the inside with 5cm thick EPS 200-SE (styrofoam). I hate that I will lose space on the inside but it is how it is and decent isolation will keep the shed warmer in winter and cooler in summer.
I chose EPS 200-SE because it's cheap, the isolation value is pretty good, it's easy to work with and it's insensitive to moisture (glasswool/stonewool will lose all it's isolation value when it gets wet.). My main concern was that EPS is flammable but further research showed me that the SE version is fire retardant.
The windows are of acrylic glass, I expect much heat to get lost there so I will have to double that up as well.

I'm planning on modifying the top window (depending on how easy that will be) so I can swap the glass for something like aluminium mesh in summer to let out heat.
My only worry with this project is that the shed will be in a sunny space and temperatures may get high during summer, plenty of ventilation will need to be added.

Enclosure sizes are not yet set in stone, I am kinda planning to use the space next to the doors and devide it in half which should give each chameleon a ~110cm wide x 60cm deep x ~ 150cm tall enclosure (I will place the water reservoir under the enclosures). I may instead create 2x 60cm and 1x 100cm instead so I can add a female Jaxonii. My current plan is to keep the top part of the enclosure open and just build a glass 80cm tall wall to keep the chameleons inside their enclosures.

On the other end of the shed I will build a big corner enclosure where my ackie will live out her senior days and which I will eventually use to keep a Tegu (probably Salvator merianae) (or maybe two/trhee).

I got a question!
I was planning to order a LED tubelight to stimulate plantgrowth, will a 6000k LED tubelight do the job?
 
Whoaaaa Remko You did it! Great to hear the developments and great you can share your story with everyone! I very much look forward to seeing this work progress but hang on-
Can I really be reading this? A tegu i knew but or 'maybe two or three??' :eek::D ( check out 'Loki' a black and white tegu eating quails eggs- it's the cutest thing! )
Congratulations and best of luck for this project- it will be great!(y)
I have an standard led light above for general lighting but each viv has an arcadia jungle dawn and the plants grow so well it's unbelievable- i dont actually leave them on all the time and they still do well..
 
A tegu i knew but or 'maybe two or three??' :eek::D ( check out 'Loki' a black and white tegu eating quails eggs- it's the cutest thing! )
Congratulations and best of luck for this project- it will be great!(y)
I have an standard led light above for general lighting but each viv has an arcadia jungle dawn and the plants grow so well it's unbelievable- i dont actually leave them on all the time and they still do well..
space requirements dont differ a whole lot between 1 and 3 tegus, the only thing to keep in mind is a possibility to seperate them as females can get agressive during mating season so 2 is more likely than 3.

I don't want to spend a whole lot on jungledawn lamps while I may not need em. I looked up that lighting between 6000k and 7000k basically all contain the daylight spectrum that's good for plant growth. I ordered a 150cm big waterproof tl armature and a 6000k led tl for the price of half a jungle dawn lamp so Ill try that first.
 
Thats cool that you can do this for your reptiles, but I can't help feel a bit sad that they will be further away and that access to them will be much less convenient especially in inclement weather. :(

Perhaps this can be the new guest room instead, after all the Chams are family, not guest...:p
 
Thats cool that you can do this for your reptiles, but I can't help feel a bit sad that they will be further away and that access to them will be much less convenient especially in inclement weather. :(

Perhaps this can be the new guest room instead, after all the Chams are family, not guest...:p

Or even the "Doghouse" :D
 
Thats cool that you can do this for your reptiles, but I can't help feel a bit sad that they will be further away and that access to them will be much less convenient especially in inclement weather. :(

Perhaps this can be the new guest room instead, after all the Chams are family, not guest...:p
My chameleons are upstairs now in a room where I don't do anything else other than care for them.
So actually the 'further away' will likely bring them closer (not that they care), husbandry will be easier with possibility to mist more or longer. I'd be able to breed more feeders and they will have bigger enclosures. It will also be easier for me to move em outside on a good day...

As the shed will be my domain and I will move all my tools there and likely also my 3d printer and PC i can use it to do my hobby undisturbed and also do work when i have to work from home outside office hours.

I don't think it's a bad thing at al, it helps me simplify care and gives them a better life. The weather here is ok for this 90% of the year but the days it gets to hot out are now also a 'struggle' inside the house where I have less options to let heat out.
Winters are pretty mild here lately, but it's easier to heat a shed than to cool it so I'm not worried.
 
Looking great Remko, I see that's a lot of work you've put in but it will be great when it's done

I have two sheds for reptiles, it is the best thing in the world to have the animals in their own space, no longer do I have to be concerned with escapee live foods, I would not be able mist for a continuous 2 hours a day in the house either, it have been a very positive thing to have them separated and I send much more quality time with them and their conditions are improved because in it so it's been an incredibly positive decision for me:)
Good luck with the next phase! Looking great.
 
@Twitchet, I would love to have running water in my shed to be able to mist for longer periods but sadly that will not be the case, I will have to do with the gardening hose.
I'd also worry my backyard would turn into a swamp if I misted for 2 hours a day. :p
I'm aiming for 30 minutes misting a day which will be double as it is now, for my holidays I can adjust schedule to minutes which should make a full reservoir last for a whole week.

For the next days I will apply more sand on the tiles and hose it down with the gardening hose so it will set more so the ground will be as solid as possible.
 
Yes, the 2 hour misting is parson related but can you imagine trying to do that in a house:eek: because of the volume of water the parsons have waste pipes going outside from their vivs and the water trickles into a hole filled with gravel and it works quite well, might plant something under the pipes next time instead.
So having a designated shed for your animals will be just wonderful,
I'm hoping to get a bigger reservoir for the parsons too and hope to fill every other day which will help cut down the work on them a little,
You can start planning that tegu now too! :)
Congrats, it's going to be an exciting next stage when the shed arrives! (y)
 
I'm making preparations to build a ~6m2 shed in my backyard for my Reptiles (and future addition(s)) and tools.
Reasons for this project are because my wife wants to use the chameleon room as a guestroom and she doesn't like insects in the house all that much... My motivation obviously is that I will have more space for my animals and will have less work as I can get a bigger reservoir for water and will have drainage water just run into the backyard. I will also not have to worry about escapee insects anymore or molding in the room.

I may update this thread as work progresses.

Below a picture of the shed I've ordered (2weeks ago), personally I think it looks awesome, the only downside are the big doors and windows on the front that will obviously leave less space place stuff against.
On a positive note the big doors will allow so much ventilation on a hot day!

Delivery on the shed takes around 6 weeks so I got plenty of time to clear some ground in the backyard, lay a proper foundation for my shed and plan the interior.
Right now I ran a electricity cable from the house to where the shed will be, which made me go to a place of the house you otherwise never get to see and will rather avoid... the crawlspace.
grauburg_6.jpg


As I'm a complete gardening noob I wanted to do it as simple as possible without having to spend many hundreds of euro's on a concrete foundation. I came across TTE-system foundation that looks easy to place, is used for parking lots (apparently) so allows a big load per m2 and will offer stability since the tiles link into each other. The tiles are made of recycled material and have a hard rubbery feel.
2.jpg

(Googled picture of the foundation, not my work)
You can fill the holes or leave them open, I think I'll leave em open or possibly add some gravel.
It will be awesome for drainage.

I will isolate the shed on the inside with 5cm thick EPS 200-SE (styrofoam). I hate that I will lose space on the inside but it is how it is and decent isolation will keep the shed warmer in winter and cooler in summer.
I chose EPS 200-SE because it's cheap, the isolation value is pretty good, it's easy to work with and it's insensitive to moisture (glasswool/stonewool will lose all it's isolation value when it gets wet.). My main concern was that EPS is flammable but further research showed me that the SE version is fire retardant.
The windows are of acrylic glass, I expect much heat to get lost there so I will have to double that up as well.

I'm planning on modifying the top window (depending on how easy that will be) so I can swap the glass for something like aluminium mesh in summer to let out heat.
My only worry with this project is that the shed will be in a sunny space and temperatures may get high during summer, plenty of ventilation will need to be added.

Enclosure sizes are not yet set in stone, I am kinda planning to use the space next to the doors and devide it in half which should give each chameleon a ~110cm wide x 60cm deep x ~ 150cm tall enclosure (I will place the water reservoir under the enclosures). I may instead create 2x 60cm and 1x 100cm instead so I can add a female Jaxonii. My current plan is to keep the top part of the enclosure open and just build a glass 80cm tall wall to keep the chameleons inside their enclosures.

On the other end of the shed I will build a big corner enclosure where my ackie will live out her senior days and which I will eventually use to keep a Tegu (probably Salvator merianae) (or maybe two/trhee).

I got a question!
I was planning to order a LED tubelight to stimulate plantgrowth, will a 6000k LED tubelight do the job?
In my experience with aquarium plants, 6500k works best, although anything between 6000k-7000k should work.
 
Yea, I kinda postponed the rest of the project a while because I wasn't gonna put em outside during the winter anyways.

Found a picture of the shed.
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I will get insulation and buildingwood next monday so then the project continues, finally.
I already have everything for running electrics and got double glass windows for it too.

I want it done this spring so I can test for temps and then move the chameleons there soon after.
 
Wow Remko! That looks fantastic, love the smart look and colour, congratulations on nearly getting there.
It takes a LONG time doesn’t it?
Good to see you here too. Hope all is well with the scale babies.
 
No worries, all is well, chameleons doing ok too.
Life's just to busy to be active everywhere.

It certainly takes a long time if you don't work on it, how's your shed?

I got whole week off next week so I hope to progress nicely.
I went with 50mm tempex and 12mm wood plating on insulation, figured few lamps and maybe a thermostat regulated heater would be enough to heat a confined space even if insulation isn't top noch without having it run into the bills to much.

I'm excited to continue the project, hope to be able to update this topic soon with pictures.

Going with bio active substrate and a lot of plants.
I have not made plans yet to get more reptiles but I will include the option to divide the enclosure in more parts in case I do (until then just more space for Wurma).

I also still plan to move my Ackie to the shed, this should also make sure there's always a good temperature in there I guess.
 
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