What cage size should be for a pair of jacksons?

[nenitavega]

I´ve read that Jackson as any other cham should be kept alone in a cage, but i also have read that the pair can be together if the cage is big... but how big enough? i know there are a lot of factors like the chams temperament . but talking about cage saize. What do you think? already bought a cage, but i dont want them to be stressed. (sorry for the english) . Please help! Thanks

 

[JaxyGirl]

I´ve read that Jackson as any other cham should be kept alone in a cage, but i also have read that the pair can be together if the cage is big... but how big enough? i know there are a lot of factors like the chams temperament . but talking about cage saize. What do you think? already bought a cage, but i dont want them to be stressed. (sorry for the english) . Please help! Thanks

I'm sorry to say that male and female Jacksons chameleons should not be kept together in a cage no matter what size it is. The male will constantly be trying to breed with the female which will cause tremendous stress on her and your male. Stress can lower the immune system which can lead to all kinds of health issues.

 

[Lathis]

No, they cannot and should not be housed together. Time to invest in cage #2!

 

[Devokid]

They cannot be allowed to see or touch each other, so the cage size would have to be 48"X48"X24" or bigger and then have a non-transparent barrier running down the middle effectively creating 2 cages.

 

[SocialNumb]

They can absolutely be in a cage together but only if one half of your cage is in the states and Trump gets his way.

 

[Carlton]

I´ve read that Jackson as any other cham should be kept alone in a cage, but i also have read that the pair can be together if the cage is big... but how big enough? i know there are a lot of factors like the chams temperament . but talking about cage saize. What do you think? already bought a cage, but i dont want them to be stressed. (sorry for the english) . Please help! Thanks

I've read that some keepers have more than one in a greenhouse sized space where the female has a better chance to hide from the male when she is not ready to breed.

 

[JaxyGirl]

I've read that some keepers have more than one in a greenhouse sized space where the female has a better chance to hide from the male when she is not ready to breed.

I do have to admit that I kept my pair in a huge free range together. Which my new male panther lives in now but my female panther lives in a cage because they are of breeding age. The free range was big enough that my Jacksons didn't have to be around each other and could have their own space if needed. However, they did like to sit together most of the time. You can see pics of my free range in my albums. They each had their own basking spot and they each had their own UVB light. I had my male for a long time on this free range by himself and decided I wanted to breed him and unfortunately he was past prime and didn't have any interest in her so maybe that helped that he wasn't chasing her around all the time m I would never consider keeping them in a cage together because they wouldnt ever be able to get away from each other which would cause tons of stress.

 

[Lathis]

A huge free range is a very different situation in my opinion. There have been EXPERIENCED keepers who have been successful with alternate methods, but generally for us "normies" and new keepers, the recommendation should be "no".

It's so hard to learn the subtle stress signals in a new cham and some may just never adapt. Until you have quite a bit of experience until the belt, don't set yourself up for failure. And that's the royal "you" - myself included!

 

[JaxyGirl]

A huge free range is a very different situation in my opinion. There have been EXPERIENCED keepers who have been successful with alternate methods, but generally for us "normies" and new keepers, the recommendation should be "no".

It's so hard to learn the subtle stress signals in a new cham and some may just never adapt. Until you have quite a bit of experience until the belt, don't set yourself up for failure. And that's the royal "you" - myself included!

I absolutely agree with you! I definitely don't think that two chams should be housed in the same cage ever. Even the most experienced keepers probably shouldn't unless they are trying to breed etc but even that is short term. I was lucky that it worked out for me but if either of my Jacksons seemed stressed the female would have gone back in her cage. Currently my male Panther is on the free range but my female is in a 48" cage in another room.

 

[nenitavega]

Problem solved!

Indeed they got very stressed , female turned black... I got very stressed as well , so , early I took her out and bought a nice new cage for herself. They were together less than a day :S But now they are both happier Thanks everyone! PS (I hope the black thing goes away soon)

 

[Lathis]

Yay!! I love happy endings.

Maybe in the future, if you're up for the massive amounts of work that babies entail, there can be conjugal visits

I didn't even say it before, but welcome to the forum! That should have been top of my first post. /facepalm

 

[JaxyGirl]

Indeed they got very stressed , female turned black... I got very stressed as well , so , early I took her out and bought a nice new cage for herself. They were together less than a day :S But now they are both happier Thanks everyone! PS (I hope the black thing goes away soon)

That's wonderful!! Glad you have two happy chams
She'll return to her normal color soon. It's freaky how dark they can get when they're not happy. Chams are like big mood rings.