what does everyone think of...

[Stacey5089]

Hi i bought this from a vets recently i was just wondering what people think of it as a dry gutload?? Its called nutrogrub and it does have d3 and does contain nutribol i will add a picture of the ingredients.

 

[Kate]

Hi i bought this from a vets recently i was just wondering what people think of it as a dry gutload?? Its called nutrogrub and it does have d3 and does contain nutribol i will add a picture of the ingredients.

Looks interesting. You still have to dust with nutrabol and plain calcium though.

 

[torquasprings]

Hi i bought this from a vets recently i was just wondering what people think of it as a dry gutload?? Its called nutrogrub and it does have d3 and does contain nutribol i will add a picture of the ingredients.

I think that it's best to stay away from man-made additives as much as possible... even in gut-loads. The way I see it is probably not how others on here see it though, but nature doesn't have bags of vitamins or minerals just laying around that somehow get mixed into the food for bugs to eat. Instead, nature provides fresh/organic, fruits, vegies, shoots, flowers, and grain/seeds(preferably sprouted). The amount and form of vitamins and minerals are just as they should be, and the insect (as well as the animal eating the insect) is able to better assimilate these as nature intended. Just my 2 cents as you requested.

 

[Stacey5089]

I think that it's best to stay away from man-made additives as much as possible... even in gut-loads. The way I see it is probably not how others on here see it though, but nature doesn't have bags of vitamins or minerals just laying around that somehow get mixed into the food for bugs to eat. Instead, nature provides fresh/organic, fruits, vegies, shoots, flowers, and grain/seeds(preferably sprouted). The amount and form of vitamins and minerals are just as they should be, and the insect (as well as the animal eating the insect) is able to better assimilate these as nature intended. Just my 2 cents as you requested.

I still use a wet gutload aswell that consists of curly kale, carrot, butternut squash, grape, apple and blueberry all mixed together ill post the pics of the ingredients now

 

[Stacey5089]

Looks interesting. You still have to dust with nutrabol and plain calcium though.

Yes i still dust with plain calcium with no d3 for my chameleons and nutribol twice a month and i use calcium with d3 for my bearded dragons ill post the pics now

 

[Stacey5089]

The pics of the tub

 

[torquasprings]

I still use a wet gutload aswell that consists of curly kale, carrot, butternut squash, grape, apple and blueberry all mixed together ill post the pics of the ingredients now

Awesome! Im not sure if you already know this or not, but just be careful of using any of the cruciferous family in the raw form. Steam or blanch the Kale before you blend the wet gut load up. I know that I'm somewhat contradicting what I said previously, as nature doesn't cook anything, but raw cruciferous vegies will bind up the nutrients that you're trying to give your pet.

 

[drcrossfire]

Vegetable protein is great. That means you can use it for dubias without concern of uric acid build up.

 

[Stacey5089]

Awesome! Im not sure if you already know this or not, but just be careful of using any of the cruciferous family in the raw form. Steam or blanch the Kale before you blend the wet gut load up. I know that I'm somewhat contradicting what I said previously, as nature doesn't cook anything, but raw cruciferous vegies will bind up the nutrients that you're trying to give your pet.

I wash the leaf i didnt realize i had to steam it tho ill start doing thiswhat does blanch mean lol

 

[Kate]

I wash the leaf i didnt realize i had to steam it tho ill start doing thiswhat does blanch mean lol

Steaming is fine. Blanch means just drop it into boiling water for a few mins.

 

[Stacey5089]

Steaming is fine. Blanch means just drop it into boiling water for a few mins.

Ok thanks ill do this from now on

 

[torquasprings]

Steaming is fine. Blanch means just drop it into boiling water for a few mins.

It's just another method to cook vegies. You'd just drop the kale in a pot of boiling water for 20 sec. or so to cook it enough so that it's still firm, yet not totally soft and mushy. This way, you'll neutralize the goitrogens, but keep the most of the good stuff.

 

[Stacey5089]

It's just another method to cook vegies. You'd just drop the kale in a pot of boiling water for 20 sec. or so to cook it enough so that it's still firm, yet not totally soft and mushy. This way, you'll neutralize the goitrogens, but keep the most of the good stuff.

So just leave it in for 20-30 seconds?? I never knew i was suppost to do this lol thanks

 

[Stacey5089]

So does everyone think this is ok to use as a dry gutload? And i use another dry gutload from.ricks live food i dont think it has a name and ive emailed to ask what was in it and he replied saying he has no way of finding out what ingredients were in it! So i thought as this one has the ingredients on the back i would get it any see what everyone on the forum thought

 

[torquasprings]

So does everyone think this is ok to use as a dry gutload? And i use another dry gutload from.ricks live food i dont think it has a name and ive emailed to ask what was in it and he replied saying he has no way of finding out what ingredients were in it! So i thought as this one has the ingredients on the back i would get it any see what everyone on the forum thought

Most of us here on the forum do utilize a dry gut load for our feeders. Some use it exclusively (not recommended), while others who know better, use it just as a supplement to fresh vegies, fruit, etc. As for a lack of ingredients on the label... it would be best to know what's in the gut-load, at least in my opinion, because I like knowing that I'm not potentially over-doing it on the D3 (which some dry gut-loads have). What's the name of the new one you're looking at? I personally use, "Cricket Crack" because it doesn't contain a high amount of synthetic vitamins and minerals (I wish it didn't, but it does contain, Vit. C, folic acid, and Calcium) in it like most of the others do.

 

[Stacey5089]

Most of us here on the forum do utilize a dry gut load for our feeders. Some use it exclusively (not recommended), while others who know better, use it just as a supplement to fresh vegies, fruit, etc. As for a lack of ingredients on the label... it would be best to know what's in the gut-load, at least in my opinion, because I like knowing that I'm not potentially over-doing it on the D3 (which some dry gut-loads have). What's the name of the new one you're looking at? I personally use, "Cricket Crack" because it doesn't contain a high amount of synthetic vitamins and minerals (I wish it didn't, but it does contain, Vit. C, folic acid, and Calcium) in it like most of the others do.

Thers pictures of it on the first page its called nutro grub and i bought it from the vets ive tried so many times to get cricket crack but its just not so easy when your in the uk

 

[Stacey5089]

So ive been using this for a few weeks now and today i noticed chamelias nostrils were white!! Could it be from to much calcium?? If im dusting the crickets and feeding them this maybe its just to much?