When you know you're ready for cham keeping

[jamest0o0]

For veiled chameleons I can figure out a way to make it work, but for like a Panther I can't think of a way to make it work without stressing the animal out. Veiled chameleons tall casque makes it easy to do and probably wouldn'
bother them much more than when they are shedding their casque, and usually @jannb you don't have the hat on for very long, correct? I think the post was about for extended periods of time like a permanent accessory. I never saw the thread though. Also, I think you fall into the almost every forum member @jamest0o0 trusts wouldn't do that. Also my post was in regards to chameleon species without the tall casque the veiled chameleon's have.

The thing is, it won't kill your chameleon. Some may more or less not care depending on how used to people they are and how relaxed that individual is. I just have a problem with anthropomorphizing animals. It leads to their suffering in many cases.

 

[Remkon]

Wait.. what lol, are you serious?

No, lol... Chameleons are terrible fighters, better use ferrets for this, they are fierce and small enough to fit into a small enough ball.

 

[jamest0o0]

Whatever though, I got myself off topic here.... the point is. Fill out the damn care sheet. And people will be happy to help.

 

[jamest0o0]

@Remkon could always put giant centipedes in the balls and throw them at people

 

[Jevin]

Whatever though, I got myself off topic here.... the point is. Fill out the damn care sheet. And people will be happy to help.

Agreed.

 

[JacksJill]

Getting back on topic.
You are ready for chameleon keeping when you:

• joined the forum or at least lurk and search topics.
• have researched the best cage configuration for your climate and chameleon of choice. Screen,glass viv. or other
• budget the expenses on this list https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/average-cost-of-owning-a-chameleon.522/
• can keep 3 varieties of feeder and a plant alive for a month.
• know where the nearest reptile knowledgeable vet is located.
• plan to work from home and not vacation or get an automatic misting system and can successfully drill the hole for the reservoir.
  

I'm sure there is a lot more but that's just of the top of my head.

 

[Goose502]

Getting back on topic.
You are ready for chameleon keeping when you:

• joined the forum or at least lurk and search topics.
• have researched the best cage configuration for your climate and chameleon of choice. Screen,glass viv. or other
• budget the expenses on this list https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/average-cost-of-owning-a-chameleon.522/
• can keep 3 varieties of feeder and a plant alive for a month.
• know where the nearest reptile knowledgeable vet is located.
• plan to work from home and not vacation or get an automatic misting system and can successfully drill the hole for the reservoir.

I'm sure there is a lot more but that's just of the top of my head.

To expand on this, I would recommend keeping your new enclosure for at least 3 months. You will know the temps, humidity, drainage requirements, ironed out any bioactive issues, grown in live plants, and have the correct lighting set up. Some times more lighting is required for plant growth, sometimes the UVB output is insufficient. Time and careful inspection can fix any issues before any chameleon is added.

 

[JacksJill]

When I do a new setup I run the lights for 10 days because some lights burn brighter when brand new and to gauge the temps/humidity levels they will generate.

 

[jamest0o0]

Agreed with all those mentioned. My original post was more geared towards the attitude and type of person who will have success and who won't. It all seems to boil down to those that approach it humbly and are able to take advice and those that don't. Even in terrible circumstances, someone that takes and applies advice readily should be successful soon enough!

 

[Jevin]

Getting back on topic.
You are ready for chameleon keeping when you:

• joined the forum or at least lurk and search topics.
• have researched the best cage configuration for your climate and chameleon of choice. Screen,glass viv. or other
• budget the expenses on this list https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/average-cost-of-owning-a-chameleon.522/
• can keep 3 varieties of feeder and a plant alive for a month.
• know where the nearest reptile knowledgeable vet is located.
• plan to work from home and not vacation or get an automatic misting system and can successfully drill the hole for the reservoir.

I'm sure there is a lot more but that's just of the top of my head.

Does using a steak knife count? Amazingly I managed to get it first try. Unfortunately didn't have access to a working drill or big enough drill bit.

 

[JacksJill]

I knew what you were on about but you gave me space to work out a list I've been pondering. I'm thinking about what the minimum requirements to buy one of my babies would be.

 

[JacksJill]

Does using a steak knife count? Amazingly I managed to get it first try. Unfortunately didn't have access to a working drill or big enough drill bit.

You have mad skills I had to do it twice and use silicone on mine to keep it from leaking.

 

[Jevin]

I think the ability to think outside the box is a good aspect too, sometimes using what materials you have available to make something work is a good thing. Amazingly my reservoir barely leaked even before installing the seals. Had to do a test fit and decided to water test it.

 

[jamest0o0]

I knew what you were on about but you gave me space to work out a list I've been pondering. I'm thinking about what the minimum requirements to buy one of my babies would be.

How's the breeding project going anyway?

 

[JacksJill]

Still on hold for the moment. I'm working on showing a horse for a friend so that pushed breeding to the back burner. Will revisit the introductions after next week. I hope I'm not to late for this year. Scimitar is in his brightest colors right now.