Whether or not female is receptive

STRYDER

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Hi Gary here.

Have about 10 veiled chameleons between me and my friend we are attempting to breed for the 1st time and where wondering if anyone had some advice for us.

When i put my female veiled chameleon in she does not change any warning colours but she also doesnt ignore the male. Im actually in the process of trying to mate them right now! She is gaping her mouth open and whenever the male comes near they do try to bite each other yet she is not showing the usual colour indications that she is unreceptive? Is there any specific reason that this could be happening or is this normal?

Some advice would be much appreciated!!
 
Work with only one of the ten until you figure it out. Females are usually resceptive when there is heavy blue spoting and when the male is allowed to approach without the female her gaping in anger. How old are your females? Give use some details about your project.
 
James is right start with 1 for now till you have it all figured out.

I just want to know but why do you guys have 10 veileds? How many do you personaly own and how many males to females?

If you are going to breed so many make sure you have enough incubator space if that is what you will be using. And When they hatch I really feel sorry for you because they are going to eat like monsters from like 3 days old you will have your hands quite full oh and they excrete alot so you will be doing alot of cleaning quite often aswell.
 
Not to get into your business but how/where are you going to sell so many veileds? 5 females can produce alot of babies. If you avg 20 per clutch and 2 clutches each per yr. Thats 200 eggs! And veileds usually have more than 20 per clutch. The only reason I ask is thats alot of mouths to feed and veileds just don't sell for much money.
 
I have 4 males and 5 females so there is 9 in total. Im only breeding currently with my male who is about 10 months now and the female is 11 months. After observing them together awhile, i realised she is gaping her mouth open but she also shows her blue spots and my male after leaving them together for awhile has attempted to mate with her a few times.

None of the times have been 100 percent successful but she clearly is receptive, she just doesnt roll over and make it easy for my male.

Out of the 9 chams we have, 3 are still baby girls, 3 are males 9 months and healthy (brothers), 1 of those being my younger brothers cham, 1 is a 11 month old female, 2 are 8 month old females and one is a male that i bought at about 8 months because it was being badly treated.

Dono if you understand all that :D
 
You forget i come from South Africa :D were the market is still open to selling veileds, The Veileds i have are the perfect age difference so that when one female has laid eggs another batch will be 2-3months along its cycle. Provides constant eggs but not lots of eggs at once.

South Africa is alot behind America with the reptile market. It has only just begun to boom a little bit more now. With correct marketing and making sure people understand how to take care of a chameleon, we can educate and sell our chams well enough. Im also keen to get hold of panthers, their beautiful.

At the end of the day i do this because i love these animals and not because i believe i will get rich on it. I just need enough to keep the thing alive.
 
Thanks Syn, for the link.

You sure that photo tho of a receptive female is right? from what ive read it says green with blue robins-egg spots. That one looks like its puffed up black, green and orange? seems unreceptive?
 
i read somewhere one time that someone had luck when throwing a cricket in with the mating couple to initiate the mating instead of having them just awkwardly look at each other or be angry
 
Nice man I know what you mean I live in SA too!

Where abouts do you stay?

I have 2 veileds and a panther trio. Not matture enough to breed yet though:(
They are ambanjas, Im looking at starting a large breeding project with panthers, I hope to have by the end of the year panthers like sambavas, ambilobes, nosy bes, nosy mitsios, diego suarez and much more. Will have maybe 2 pairs of each. We should keep in contact maybe I could help you out.

Cheers
 
I would wait for my fems to get at least 1 yr in age before breeding. Unless they are really large and in very good condition. Its best to start preparing them for breeding by giving them a couple of feeders less than normal to keep clutch sizes smaller. Also since you live in SA. You can put your chams outside during much of the year. They really do well with natural sunlight. Even just a few hrs a week really perks them up and can stimulate poor appetites in some. When I had veileds they loved to be in their out side cages basking much of the day. Just make sure they have access to shade during the hottest hrs of the afternoon.
 
Ty for the advice :D i try to get them some sun as much as possible but they have generally been inside alot as well. Im getting a wooden hut thing made for my chams so they can be in a seperate area and not all over my house :D.
 
Nice man I know what you mean I live in SA too!

Where abouts do you stay?

I have 2 veileds and a panther trio. Not mature enough to breed yet though:(
They are ambanjas, Im looking at starting a large breeding project with panthers, I hope to have by the end of the year panthers like sambavas, ambilobes, nosy bes, nosy mitsios, diego suarez and much more. Will have maybe 2 pairs of each. We should keep in contact maybe I could help you out.

Cheers

I live in the Bryanston area and you? Im keen to get hold of panthers if you know any1 that has. They arent that easy to get around here.
 
I am not personally sure since I have never owned a female veiled, but based on the replies to the thread, no one seems to disagree.

I have not yet ever seen a breeding take place so i only know what i have researched so everything is a little trial and error right now. Anyway hopefully i can get it to work sometime. Im gonna wait another month or 2 for the female to grow a bit then ill try again.
 
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