Why so pricey

The Panther itself is the cheap part. Wait til you get into all else that's needed.:cool: It's fun and rewarding though that's for sure. Makes it all worth it.
 
Rush2112 said:
The Panther itself is the cheap part. Wait til you get into all else that's needed.:cool: It's fun and rewarding though that's for sure. Makes it all worth it.
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Yep, then wait till you get another one, then another.....
It's a big money pit... but I love them :D
 
chameleonkev said:
You had to bring this fools thread back to light didnt you lol
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Lmao........
chameleonkev said:
I don't think they are that pricey, look back at the prices of panther chameleons five years ago, I price is so much less now simply because there are getting more of them around. I personally don't want the price to dip any lower like with the veiled as if there to cheap people will buy them for the sake of it without putting serious thought in to how they going to care for the reptile since chams are easy to keep if you don't do you research
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I agree... Like Jared said, its not that panthers are too expensive. But the fact that everything else fetches such a low price. Even though those species aren't as "flashy", they often take a lot more into detail in regards to breeding and raising the young..
 
I agree, I wish every species didn't go below $2-300, it would definitely weed out the impulse buyers or the unprepared. And it would make it harder for pet stores to buy them cheaply and offer them for sale to the equally unprepared. I just saw my old boss buy a handful of Jackson's for nothing and I can only assume that they'll be dead by the end of the month, either at the store or at the hands of someone who was told to treat them like veileds... it really makes me cringe. If they weren't $50 or less a pop it would resolve that issue fairly quickly.

So yes, I'm pro-raising-the-price-on-everyone-else. But the market doesn't quite function like that.
 
Cainschams said:
They dont need seasonal cues like a lot of the cheap ugly chams. If you know what a receptive female looks like all you gotta do is introduce a male. Pretty much like dogs. Not that hard and the offspring are easy to raise. I never lost a hatchling if it came out of the egg. I never had any problems breeding or incubating eggs.

Have you tried to breed anything besides panthers or veileds?

The reason is, they are just the popular cham. Kinda like Nike compared to.......whatever cheap brands of shoes are out there. They are cool, dont get me wrong, I like chameleons of all species. I dont think over priced. I think everything else is under priced and under appreciated.
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Exactly, the so called cheaper chams are priced that way due large wild caught availability. Also many of them don't show the color range of panthers.
 
Because they are flashy looking and the broad range of colors that are avail in the different locales. Ive been saying for yrs that wc pricing of the less popular and rare chams should go up alot. If a cham is worth more to an exporter or a middle man then that animal is going to receive better care after capture & during transit to their final home. If they are perceived as throw aways because they are so cheap then unfortunately they will receive less than optimal care at least in my opinion based on what Ive witnessed in the trade.
 
Olimpia said:
I agree, I wish every species didn't go below $2-300, it would definitely weed out the impulse buyers or the unprepared. And it would make it harder for pet stores to buy them cheaply and offer them for sale to the equally unprepared. I just saw my old boss buy a handful of Jackson's for nothing and I can only assume that they'll be dead by the end of the month, either at the store or at the hands of someone who was told to treat them like veileds... it really makes me cringe. If they weren't $50 or less a pop it would resolve that issue fairly quickly.

So yes, I'm pro-raising-the-price-on-everyone-else. But the market doesn't quite function like that.
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Great point Olimpia!
 
Texas Panther Man said:
Because they are flashy looking and the broad range of colors that are avail in the different locales. Ive been saying for yrs that wc pricing of the less popular and rare chams should go up alot. If a cham is worth more to an exporter or a middle man then that animal is going to receive better care after capture & during transit to their final home. If they are perceived as throw aways because they are so cheap then unfortunately they will receive less than optimal care at least in my opinion based on what Ive witnessed in the trade.
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Another good point Texas Panther Man!
 
Rush2112 said:
Another good point Texas Panther Man!
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Fifteen years ago, if WC Parsons had sold for $500 instead of $75, they might still be available today, and a lot more work would have been done early on to work out the kinks in breeding them. And at higher prices, everyone along the supply chain could have still made money.

We plunder the rainforest for cheap pets, putting too much pressure on wild populations, learning nothing, and killing off our own hobby in the process. Collectively, we are idiots and very slow learners.
 
I think they cost more because of their beauty, and long incubation time and the $ it takes to get them to be healthy and ready to go at three months. Lots of crickets and TCL.
 
I would say jacksons are more expensive and rarer than panther especially here in th uk I got my panther on a really good deal becuase of it was his last season still he was £60 sexed male baby what a deal!
 
i am one of those people, i pay for what i want... quality health etc...

that being said i am glad that veileds are "cheap" cuz i luv them,
but why would anybody want to get into breeding veiled given the apparent oversupply. you have to do it for love cuz it can't be very profitable:confused:

jackon's confuse me, seems like they should cost much more. and panthers are probably priced close to what all chams should be, imo.
 
mphelps said:
Fifteen years ago, if WC Parsons had sold for $500 instead of $75, they might still be available today, and a lot more work would have been done early on to work out the kinks in breeding them. And at higher prices, everyone along the supply chain could have still made money.

We plunder the rainforest for cheap pets, putting too much pressure on wild populations, learning nothing, and killing off our own hobby in the process. Collectively, we are idiots and very slow learners.
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I would argue that we are not idiots and very slow learners. This forum collectively is very smart I think.

Three reasons why we aren't "idiots and very slow learners"...

1. There are multiple vets on here who are very educated.

2. What chameleons have become extinct due to people?

3. Chameleons can cost up to 3k+ so I don't think people are going to spend that much then just let the animals die due to neglect and ignorance.
 
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