Wife wants a Nosy, I want an Ambilobe

[GregJD]

So I'm a proud father of Gary, my veiled. He's a jerk, but we love him.

I may have told this story before, but I love it, so here we go:

I was always a dog guy, but chams really interested me. I've wanted to get into Chameleons for a very long time, but I've never been a reptile dude. My wife definitely wasn't a reptile chick. Finally, I said, Lord, "if I'm not crazy, let it just happen." Then, we walked into PetCo, and there was Gary, the ONLY cham flipping out in the enclosure. We fell in love and new he was perfect for our family when he, just like our dogs, reached out for my wife and copped a feel.

My wife got a Crested Ghecko, Stanley, at Repticon (which we had never heard of) 2 weeks later. They're actually best friends. . .well, Stanley thinks so. We haven't told him the reason they can't hang out together is because Gary would kill him and eat him. (is there a good crestie forum like this anywhere?) We found out that for all of my research, I knew nothing. Thanks to whoever founded this place, because everyone here has been an amazing help.

Part of my ignorance is on the deal of Panthers. I get the general info: they're named after their place of origin, which roughly dictates their coloration.

Personally, I'm an Ambilobe man. No offence to the Nosy's, but I feel that if I'm gonna fork over that much money (Gary was $35. He was %50 off, and I would have paid full price for his attitude), I'd like to get some wild coloration. I love to show off Gary's yellow and green and blue. He's really a gorgeous chameleon. I want something to show off, like my dogs.

My wife loves bright colors, so I was shocked when she said, "I just love those Nosy Be's!" She loves that beautiful blue they are.

So here's my question: What's the deal with the Nosy be's? Do they turn any colors or just get different shades of blue? Is there a compromise panther? Should we just get 1 of each?

Thanks for the info!

Greg

 

[tenchijin]

Captive bred Nosy Be are mostly blue and green. You'll get some red speckles in there, and some yellow, but that overall blue coloration is the charm that most people buy them for.

 

[ChamLB]

Captive bred Nosy Be are mostly blue and green. You'll get some red speckles in there, and some yellow, but that overall blue coloration is the charm that

most people buy them for.

Did someone mention blue....

 

[GregJD]

That's a Nosy Be? That's a pretty cham!

 

[tenchijin]

That's a Nosy Be? That's a pretty cham!

It is a spectacular specimen for sure but be advised I would not call that typical.

 

[Ilike4hornedchams]

Why not get one of both! But that picture of a Nosy above is surely NOT a pure breed by a long shot i just gotta say, this is a pure bred CB Nosy Be and every day is a surprise as how blue, green, teal or turquoises he will be, always fun to just look at him every morning!

 

[GregJD]

I've seen the typical. That guy is exceptional. Is that breeding or a Fabio from a clutch of regular Joe's?

 

[GregJD]

There are a ton of Nosy fans here.
So they just go variations between blue and green? That's really cool!
I may wind up getting 1 of each.

Any recommendations as to breeders? How good are Repticon's? I know the pet store is out, or so I've seen here. Any signs to watch out for?

By the way: any Ambilobe folks gonna give a defense?

 

[tenchijin]

By the way: any Ambilobe folks gonna give a defense?

Oh, I'm a big ambilobe fan. Michi in my avatar is my first blue bar. I adopted him and although he's got a range of colors he's not "stunning." I've seen some amazing specimens of blue bar. Seriously though, with panthers they're all just so frickin' amazing.

If you like the blue, check out an ambanja- lots of blue plus red, yellow, purple, etc.

If you like orange/red, check out various ambilobe and don't forget the humble tamatave. Also a great looking lizard.

Old standbys like diego suarez are still amazing if out of fashion.

 

[GregJD]

They really are beautiful. That's why I want 1 so bad. . .okay, 2. . .3. . .well, all of them I can reasonably keep. . .well. . .

 

[jamest0o0]

Ambanja! But anyway as others have mentioned, i think you'd have a difficult time finding a panther with developed colors that you didn't like.

 

[JacksJill]

Did someone mention blue....

Blue boy is a ambilobe/ambanja cross. He and his brothers have shown some amazing colors. ChamLB is rather proud of him. I don't know if he has any males left, you could ask him. Blue Boy is being held back as a sire.
I suspect he wanted you to see the possibilities of cross locales. Ambanja or cross locales might get you and your wife the perfect compromise.

 

[JacksJill]

Here is Blue Boy's ambanja father fyi. Ambanja gets you blue with deeper reds for contrast.

 

[Crashbandit05]

What about a cross locale? Best of both

 

[NHenn]

I have to vote one of each as well if that is an option. You won't be 100% satisfied if you don't and will most likely end up with one of each anyway hahaha.

I personally love Nosy Be's but it is hard to get over the amazing colors that the Ambilobes can produce. As for the Nosy Be colors, they can vary between different shades of Blue with green showing up as well as sometimes red rain.

We actually have a very limited number of Nosy Be's currently available as well as one awesome Ambilobe boy too so if you decide to go that direction please feel free to reach out.

Here are pictures of a few of our Nosy Be sires so you can see all the shades of blues and greens as well as the sire to our Ambilobe boy.

 

[GregJD]

Thanks! Well, to be transparent, that top Nosy Be is very cool! I'd pick him out of the whole bunch! My wife liked him, too. I'll probably be contacting you soon.

Thanks, everyone for the help!

 

[Charlie Fox]

I kinda feel if you like both locals, maybe look into the Ambanja local, they are a good mix of both, lots of deep blues like the nosy, with the color striation of Anbilobe with some red and stark white banding.

 

[kinyonga]

You're already hooked...get one of each!

 

[Jordan.gibbs]

one of us! one of us!

I got my ambilobe from Chameleon Paradise. Bruce (the owner) was exceptionally knowledgeable and has amazing animals.

Look at all the forums sponsors, and you can get a really good idea of what's out there.

Good luck on you search, and send us pics when you get your guy in!

 

[broderp]

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Did someone mention blue....

I love this Cham! (Wasn't this one in the photo contest?)