With veiled chameleons, can there be spurless males?

[Benclark]

I took my buddy Boaz to a reptile vet for a wellness check, and she was very confident he is a spurless male. Everything about him (or her) seems to be male, but it doesn't have spurs. He is about 5 months old.

 

[Brodybreaux25]

Pictures

 

[Benclark]

Pictures

 

[kinyonga]

Please show the heels too.

 

[Brodybreaux25]

I asked for pictureS, as in plural. More than one.

 

[Benclark]

Here is his heels and head

 

[Benclark]

I asked for pictureS, as in plural. More than one.

I got a few more uplaoded

 

[Kaizen]

I got a few more uplaoded

Looks like a female to me.

 

[cloverthechameleon]

I dont see any signs that would indicate that is a male. Im curious as to why the vet would tell you this.

 

[Decadancin]

Nothing visible to suggest that is a male.

 

[TiKiMan]

Female, I know those patterns like the back of my hand and there’s no visible spurs.

 

[cyberlocc]

Are you sure you do not want a male, and maybe pushed the vet into telling you it was a male? Because I doubt heavily that is a male, and SHE will need a laybin, soon.

I have heard of females with spurs, and males with small spurs, never heard of a Spurless male. There is no bulge, those are female colors, in no world of any possibility is that a male imo.


This happens all too often, people want males, and someone has to get the females, the person who gets them usually wanted a male, didn't get it and wants to find ways to believe they have a male when they dont. Sorry to say, you dont.

 

[Kaizen]

in no world of any possibility is that a male imo

Surely, there are many possible worlds where this could be a male.

 

[Brodybreaux25]

Surely, there are many possible worlds where this could be a male.

How dare you assume her gender!

 

[Brodybreaux25]

Not that needs to be said but female all day long.
... and find a new vet...

 

[Goose502]

Well, she can identify as a male panther according to ultra progressives. Lol!

 

[PetNcs]

Your question is to be answered with YES
There are spurless males, very rarely,
More frequent are half-spurred or full spurred females.

but, your chameleon is definitely a female,
no doubt

 

[Panda26]

Yeah definitely a female.

 

[Kkarlsen55]

She's a little girl. Make sure she gets calcium. I had a female Veiled become Gravid at 4 months old. She was calcium deficient and despite us giving her drops of liquid calcium - She died. Our hearts broke. Don't let that happen to you. And - YES - Get a New Vet. Make sure it's someone experienced in herpetology.

 

[CasqueAbove]

This happens all too often, people want males, and someone has to get the females

Hey. The poor girls are like “I only asked for a bucket of dirt.”
The females are sweet and take less space.