Here's a link to the post of the female in question. It shows the females evolution from a baby to adulthood.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/little-quizz-31104/
You know your a chameleon addict when you go to Home Depot with your significant other and they point out a plant they wanna buy and the first thing you do is read the tag to see if its cham safe.
Interesting, most books I've read give adult lengths in snout to tail, not snout to vent. Everyone does things different though, so no harm no foul, just some wasted space...
Some chams ignore them since they don't move a whole lot. If your cham hand feeds I suggest holding the roach by the butt with the legs facing your cham. The roach will kick its legs trying to move and that should catch your chams attention. It worked for me, and now he eats them out of his...