Any one know how many people have hatched these????

[jajeanpierre]

I've been avoiding looking in my incubator and debating just tossing all the eggs. I don't think I've looked for two weeks, maybe longer. Today I forced myself to check.

I have no idea when this little one hatched. Baby was active today but not interested in eating so I am hoping it is just hatched.

Anyone know how many people have gotten these to hatch in captivity? I know of two people. @GCash @Motherlode Chameleon @bobcochran

Calumma malthe newborn.

 

[JoeDigiorgio]

Did you move already?!

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

Janet

A Big Congratulation! You are the first I have heard of here in North America.

From Europe two to three keepers (off the top of my head Daniel, Jurgen and possibly Monique and Critter King and others) I know of who has hatch Calumma malthe with the prospects of another three whom I have heard of by word of mouth and I am not actually acquainted with.

I have only seen them for sale once this year. They are not that available. They have kind of earned a label of being hard to keep from what I have heard. I think that is not an accurate statement by any means.

Did you use a diapause for this clutch of Calumma malthe eggs? You have only had the one baby hatch so far?

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

 

[jajeanpierre]

Janet

A Big Congratulation! You are the first I have heard of here in North America.

From Europe two to three keepers (off the top of my head Daniel, Jurgen and possibly Monique and Critter King and others) I know of who has hatch Calumma malthe with the prospects of another three whom I have heard of by word of mouth and I am not actually acquainted with.

I have only seen them for sale once this year. They are not that available. They have kind of earned a label of being hard to keep from what I have heard. I think that is not an accurate statement by any means.

Did you use a diapause for this clutch of Calumma malthe eggs? You have only had the one baby hatch so far?

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

I thought Steve McNarry said he hatched three.

I was in the middle of my aflatoxicosis disaster when they were laid and to be honest, I didn't care if the eggs lived or died. I did a bit of a diapause but it was late and I didn't even try to research it. This is the only one to hatch so far.

I didn't find the C. malthe difficult to keep at all. They suffered terribly at import. I lost many of mine from aflatoxicosis which wasn't their fault. Only one of my malthe that got sick survived while most of my quads and graciliors survived. Also, the adult malthe got sickened by the toxin and I only had very few adult quads/graciliors get sick. In the malthe's defense, they were only a few months away from import and it might have just been too much for them. The gravid female malthe did not survive a bout of aflatoxicosis.

I gave all I had left to a friend and kept my one favorite male who is doing really well nearing two years after import. I think any import is a pretty damaged specimen, so won't label them as difficult to keep.

I built and tore apart five different set ups for my first malthe before I got him happy. They are found all over the island so I would not think they are too particular although an individual might not be able to change conditions as easily as the species can adapt if you understand the difference. I feel that if they are not happy with enclosure, they will let you know and won't do well until you get their enclosure right. I think they want a substrate and more horizontal space than vertical. Many of mine dug, even the males. My gut feeling is they are somewhat terrestrial.

 

[jajeanpierre]

Did you move already?!

No. I closed on the new house and am trying to figure out what to do with my collection so that I can get my Texas house ready to sell.

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

I thought Steve McNarry said he hatched three.

I was in the middle of my aflatoxicosis disaster when they were laid and to be honest, I didn't care if the eggs lived or died. I did a bit of a diapause but it was late and I didn't even try to research it. This is the only one to hatch so far.

I didn't find the C. malthe difficult to keep at all. They suffered terribly at import. I lost many of mine from aflatoxicosis which wasn't their fault. Only one of my malthe that got sick survived while most of my quads and graciliors survived. Also, the adult malthe got sickened by the toxin and I only had very few adult quads/graciliors get sick. In the malthe's defense, they were only a few months away from import and it might have just been too much for them. The gravid female malthe did not survive a bout of aflatoxicosis.

I gave all I had left to a friend and kept my one favorite male who is doing really well nearing two years after import. I think any import is a pretty damaged specimen, so won't label them as difficult to keep.

I built and tore apart five different set ups for my first malthe before I got him happy. They are found all over the island so I would not think they are too particular although an individual might not be able to change conditions as easily as the species can adapt if you understand the difference. I feel that if they are not happy with enclosure, they will let you know and won't do well until you get their enclosure right. I think they want a substrate and more horizontal space than vertical. Many of mine dug, even the males. My gut feeling is they are somewhat terrestrial.

Someone told me he (Steve) thought Calumma malthe were a hard species to keep and would not be importing them anymore.

Mine did great in the greenhouse. That is with the exception of when shedding time came. I am almost done with new lighting in the aquarium room and should not have shedding problems again with this species.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

 

[Chris Anderson]

Very nice! Great job! There are no older records (pre-1995 ban) I am aware of for hatching this species in captivity, although a few, including Ken Kalisch, did get eggs. Definitely not a species that has been hatched many times since the ban either. How many more are in the clutch and how long was the incubation?

Chris

 

[jajeanpierre]

Very nice! Great job! There are no older records (pre-1995 ban) I am aware of for hatching this species in captivity, although a few, including Ken Kalisch, did get eggs. Definitely not a species that has been hatched many times since the ban either. How many more are in the clutch and how long was the incubation?

Chris

As mentioned above, I was in the middle of the aflatoxicosis crisis and didn't take as much care of them as I perhaps should have. I did a diapause that was not really a diapause as I had nothing to base it on. The eggs were laid May 29/17. They might have been produced from a breeding in captivity. There are a lot of eggs left in the clutch that look good but who knows. I've had a lot of malthe clutches that looked terrific sweated and shrank and it was only when I cut them open that I realized they were infertile or didn't develop at all. These eggs with zero development in them were perfect and over a year in the incubator with no mold or shrinkage until after they sweated.

 

[Decadancin]

If one has hatched, I am hopeful that whatever conditions were present were the right ones and more will follow soon. I know they are from a difficult time in your experiences, but perhaps they are the silver lining in all of this? I hope so but time may tell. Thank you for sharing with us!!!

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

This is a link to my thread about my Calumma malthe clutch. This small Calumma malthe clutch had none of my eggs hatch.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/calumma-malthe-clutch.151626/

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

 

[GCash]

I've been avoiding looking in my incubator and debating just tossing all the eggs. I don't think I've looked for two weeks, maybe longer. Today I forced myself to check.

I have no idea when this little one hatched. Baby was active today but not interested in eating so I am hoping it is just hatched.

Anyone know how many people have gotten these to hatch in captivity? I know of two people. @GCash @Motherlode Chameleon @bobcochran

Calumma malthe newborn.

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Woo-hoo! Sorry I’m late to the game but Congrats Janet! I’ve only seen pics of hatchling malthe on Jurgen’s “some nice pictures” thread. Not sure if they were his or someone else’s though. He shared a lot of other European breeders’ animals throughout that thread. Great species to see hatched!