Baby Panther hanging on the bottom of the cage
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chameleon12
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that's wierd...
PardalisGirl
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Close up?
Can we get a picture that shows his body in more of a close up? I want to see what his limbs and tail look like. Also can't tell if his eyes were open in that picture. If they are, then he is hunting. If closed, it's a problem. How big is that cage? Can we get a picture that shows the whole cage from a slight distance?
Can we get a picture that shows his body in more of a close up? I want to see what his limbs and tail look like. Also can't tell if his eyes were open in that picture. If they are, then he is hunting. If closed, it's a problem. How big is that cage? Can we get a picture that shows the whole cage from a slight distance?
PaulZarate
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The Temperature on the top is usually from 84-90
I'm not too sure, he has a food dish and his crickets usually don't get eaten in there, but I do put some free crickets and he usually does eat those. The only reason I put the dish there is because I'm scared he's not catching the wild ones.
His eyes are open, I've never seen his eyes closed during the day. The cage is a 30x18x30
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He's 3 months and 2 weeks old.
PaulZarate
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PardalisGirl
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Cage size.............
That cage is super big for a cham that age and size. He won't spend enough time within range of the UVB. What type of UVB light are you using? If you look at the specifications for that light I bet you will find he is spending little time in the UVB lights reach. That's a serious issue. I'm not worried about the temperature since the cage is so darn big. It's probably 90 degrees in only one small area at the very top. The rest of the cage would be dramatically cooler. His insect food sources have so many places to hide in the lower regions of that big cage that it attracts him away from the UVB too. I really would recommend you downsize his (and his food source's) space. You have a high potential for a MBD situation to occur. He's a cute little one
That cage is super big for a cham that age and size. He won't spend enough time within range of the UVB. What type of UVB light are you using? If you look at the specifications for that light I bet you will find he is spending little time in the UVB lights reach. That's a serious issue. I'm not worried about the temperature since the cage is so darn big. It's probably 90 degrees in only one small area at the very top. The rest of the cage would be dramatically cooler. His insect food sources have so many places to hide in the lower regions of that big cage that it attracts him away from the UVB too. I really would recommend you downsize his (and his food source's) space. You have a high potential for a MBD situation to occur. He's a cute little one
PaulZarate
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That cage is super big for a cham that age and size. He won't spend enough time within range of the UVB. What type of UVB light are you using? If you look at the specifications for that light I bet you will find he is spending little time in the UVB lights reach. That's a serious issue. I'm not worried about the temperature since the cage is so darn big. It's probably 90 degrees in only one small area at the very top. The rest of the cage would be dramatically cooler. His insect food sources have so many places to hide in the lower regions of that big cage that it attracts him away from the UVB too. I really would recommend you downsize his (and his food source's) space. You have a high potential for a MBD situation to occur. He's a cute little one
so I should buy a new cage? I'd figure because he's going to be a juvenile soon this would be good for him. I'm using a Exo-Terra 5.0 15W UVB.
PardalisGirl
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What brand....
What brand and strength of UVB? I think you need to see for yourself how far down the UVB extends. A Reptisun 5.0 would extend UVB 12" below THE TUBE ITSELF. You could have it in a hood that raises the tube up an inch or two above the screen top. A Reptisun 10.0 extends down to 20". I use 10.0 lights on all my cages that size. You need to look at his basking branches and see if they are in range. And figure out how much time he is spending on them once you know they are in range.
What brand and strength of UVB? I think you need to see for yourself how far down the UVB extends. A Reptisun 5.0 would extend UVB 12" below THE TUBE ITSELF. You could have it in a hood that raises the tube up an inch or two above the screen top. A Reptisun 10.0 extends down to 20". I use 10.0 lights on all my cages that size. You need to look at his basking branches and see if they are in range. And figure out how much time he is spending on them once you know they are in range.
PaulZarate
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From what I know mine is also 12"
PardalisGirl
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Cage........
Looks like we are typing at the same time. If I had to make that cage work this is what I would do..... Buy a Reptisun 10.0 light that stretches the entire length of the cage. I'd actually buy a 36" light and hood fixture and put it on the diagonal. Move all those flexible branches so that they are in the 20 inch UVB range. They don't need to go down to the bottom. He can climb that screen easily.
Put his crickets in a white plastic cup or tub with some dry gutload in it (to keep them gutloaded) and hang it in the upper part of the cage. Tilt it slightly so he can see into it more easily. I use twisted paperclips to hang them up. Cup feed him until he is several months older and much bigger. Monitor him closely to make sure he is spending lots of time in range of the UVB. Maybe get one more bushy plant that reaches up to the UVB range. A nice Pothos would work well. You can set plants on overturned pots to increase their heights. Get his foliage (for drinking and security) in the mid to upper range of the cage. Have the temperature of the branch area be about 78 degrees. He can climb the screen to get warmer if he wants too. What is the ambient temperature of the room? Basically, everything I am suggesting is to get all his activity up in the top part of the cage so he gets the UVB he needs.
Looks like we are typing at the same time. If I had to make that cage work this is what I would do..... Buy a Reptisun 10.0 light that stretches the entire length of the cage. I'd actually buy a 36" light and hood fixture and put it on the diagonal. Move all those flexible branches so that they are in the 20 inch UVB range. They don't need to go down to the bottom. He can climb that screen easily.
Put his crickets in a white plastic cup or tub with some dry gutload in it (to keep them gutloaded) and hang it in the upper part of the cage. Tilt it slightly so he can see into it more easily. I use twisted paperclips to hang them up. Cup feed him until he is several months older and much bigger. Monitor him closely to make sure he is spending lots of time in range of the UVB. Maybe get one more bushy plant that reaches up to the UVB range. A nice Pothos would work well. You can set plants on overturned pots to increase their heights. Get his foliage (for drinking and security) in the mid to upper range of the cage. Have the temperature of the branch area be about 78 degrees. He can climb the screen to get warmer if he wants too. What is the ambient temperature of the room? Basically, everything I am suggesting is to get all his activity up in the top part of the cage so he gets the UVB he needs.
PaulZarate
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I'll do all of those, and the ambient temperature is generally around 70-75
PardalisGirl
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Where did you get him...
Out of curiousity.....where did you get him?
Out of curiousity.....where did you get him?
PaulZarate
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Screameleons
derekmorway
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my veiled use to do that as well but its been a year and she is fine. as long as nothing looks swollen or out of the ordinary i wouldnt worry to much. and all you have to do is get a clear plastic cup pokes some holes thru it and get some metal ties and tie it thru ur cage screen up near the top of whereever you see him alot and put the food in there so the food is in one area to start and he doesnt have to much trouble trying to hunt for them in the whole cage.
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