Bruise?

phantomchameleon

phantomchameleon

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When i left for school at 7:30 am he didn't have this, but i come back at 3 ish he has this?
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That sorta ring near his eye. I haven't touched his face and i dont know where it could have come from?
(Yes he is angry and stressed in this photo, He was in an awkward position. I put him right back in his enclosure after this and he snuggled up in his leaves again)
 
It looks like it can be a minor scrap on something in his enclosure. It should go away by next shed. It also can be a burn, how hot is your basking spot?
 
Chameleons skin does not bruise that easily unless he fell very hard on that side of his face and a drawing will get us no where if you wanted to get some more help on this situation I would recommend a photo.
 
I know you have repeatedly ignored the concerns that many have been stating, and that is fine, but every picture looks worse than the last.
Your chameleon looks very dehydrated and ill. I would ask that if you do care about that life you fill out the "how to ask for help" form fully with as much detail as possible, tell us what medication is being administered and how much, and take this seriously. A sketch may show some artistic talent, but is not helping your chameleon.
Please take this seriously because I fear your chameleon is suffering more than you realize.
 
Decadancin said:
I know you have repeatedly ignored the concerns that many have been stating, and that is fine, but every picture looks worse than the last.
Your chameleon looks very dehydrated and ill. I would ask that if you do care about that life you fill out the "how to ask for help" form fully with as much detail as possible, tell us what medication is being administered and how much, and take this seriously. A sketch may show some artistic talent, but is not helping your chameleon.
Please take this seriously because I fear your chameleon is suffering more than you realize.
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I am by no means ignoring concerns. As you can tell the lighting is very very dark in my room and it made him also look very dark.
With proper lighting https://puu.sh/siz7O/2924d4dd75.png
https://puu.sh/sizaj/63c9a5302b.png
He has been drinking and i have been misting him 3 times a day. I have been formula feeding him because he still is refusing silk worms, supers, and crickets
 
phantomchameleon said:
I am by no means ignoring concerns. As you can tell the lighting is very very dark in my room and it made him also look very dark.
With proper lighting https://puu.sh/siz7O/2924d4dd75.png
https://puu.sh/sizaj/63c9a5302b.png
He has been drinking and i have been misting him 3 times a day. I have been formula feeding him because he still is refusing silk worms, supers, and crickets
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Addressing the concerns yourself or not, I think it would be beneficial to provide adequate information for the people on the forums, so that they can be of help. Everyone has your chameleon's best interest in mind, and many people on this site really know what they are talking about. They have been working with chameleons for years and know the warning signs of an ill lizard. I truly believe you should broaden your horizons when it comes to receiving advice. I've been reading your threads and I'm aware that you have a vet that you trust. However, speaking from a research point of view, you are more likely to receive adequate information if you don't put all your eggs in one basket. I personally think that you have better luck using the cumulative knowledge that has been gathered from vets all over the world and that has been successfully put to use, that being the advice from your fellow forum members.

That aside, I don't mean for this to be rude, I'm just worried for Slurpy. I wish you the best of luck no matter what you choose to do, I hope your chameleon lives a long, happy life.
 
KeopiCat said:
Addressing the concerns yourself or not, I think it would be beneficial to provide adequate information for the people on the forums, so that they can be of help. Everyone has your chameleon's best interest in mind, and many people on this site really know what they are talking about. They have been working with chameleons for years and know the warning signs of an ill lizard. I truly believe you should broaden your horizons when it comes to receiving advice. I've been reading your threads and I'm aware that you have a vet that you trust. However, speaking from a research point of view, you are more likely to receive adequate information if you don't put all your eggs in one basket. I personally think that you have better luck using the cumulative knowledge that has been gathered from vets all over the world and that has been successfully put to use, that being the advice from your fellow forum members.

That aside, I don't mean for this to be rude, I'm just worried for Slurpy. I wish you the best of luck no matter what you choose to do, I hope your chameleon lives a long, happy life.
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(i was going to put this as another post but might as well reply)
Update: The more in depth blood work came in and the results kinda explain everything?
It's my fault for not checking the parents of my chameleon before purchasing and it's my fault for not choosing a good breeder.
Slurpy is an inbred chameleon, and apparently the breeder has been inbreeding their chams for years.
I know lizards, especially snakes, are usually inbred but the affects of multiple generations of inbreeding is still a present concern.
Slurpy has some stomach problems. The stomach isn't producing enough acid to properly digest food.
Also he is at a higher risk for MBD, and he needs more water than usual
I dont know if i can properly care for him now knowing this.
 
phantomchameleon said:
(The stomach isn't producing enough acid to properly digest food.
Also he is at a higher risk for MBD, and he needs more water than usual
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I'd wait for someone more established's opinion, but maybe feeding Slurpy softer bodied foods would be easier for him to digest (so he doesn't have to deal with chitin). Also, for hydration I would recommend showers (worms help with this too). Set him on a plant and set the shower head against the shower wall so a lukewarm (better a little colder than hotter, chams burn easy) mist falls on him for 10-40 minutes.
 
KeopiCat said:
I'd wait for someone more established's opinion, but maybe feeding Slurpy softer bodied foods would be easier for him to digest (so he doesn't have to deal with chitin). Also, for hydration I would recommend showers (worms help with this too). Set him on a plant and set the shower head against the shower wall so a lukewarm (better a little colder than hotter, chams burn easy) mist falls on him for 10-40 minutes.
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Alright i'll try that!
 
KeopiCat said:
Good luck. I can tell that you care about your chameleon, I think you're just having a rough time with his health (which is unfortunate). I'll keep Slurpy in my thoughts ^-^
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It's kinda sad though because i feel kinda hopeless? Like this is genetic stuff, you can't fix it.
 
phantomchameleon said:
It's kinda sad though because i feel kinda hopeless? Like this is genetic stuff, you can't fix it.
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What your chameleon needs now more than anything is for you to stay hopeful and try everything you can to help him. It may be hard (and possibly a little pricey), but at the end of the day he's depending on you.
 
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