Camiezone babies from Homer and Big Girl
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Camiezone
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He's looking so happy and content.Aww…little sweetie is trying out a new ‘bed’ and has himself all tucked in and ready for dreams of big trees and juicy bugs.
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MissSkittles
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Welcome to you and Bud!Hello All. Meet Bud, yeah another B ( my grandson named him). He is my Homer boy…..He blessed my home office with his amazing color and attitude on Sept 7. I do not normally post but I have been having a blast reading this thread and completely agree that Camiezone chams have some of the best colors(and giant poooooos)
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I will create another post to share my amazing purchase experience with her as well as the criteria, environmentals and closures, food, and “Bud” growing up info, other info I see asked for etc. So much so that I am finishing another enclosure for a new Ambanja she has for me as well. Very excited. I am glad I ran across this forum. This seems like a great forum and a giant difference in info sharing from my first chameleon days. 40+years ago!
I got a few picks of his normal chillin colors. Sleeping he is red and white(I think he is confused, it’s the whole skittle thing
I have seen that a nice healthy poo shot is a game changer for this group so will follow up with a nice one later.
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His shed colors(mad I think)
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Thank you for letting me share.
And lastly. The day he came home!
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He’s a little beauty! Welcome back to the hobby. You’re long overdue if it’s been 40+ years. It’s wonderful that you’re introducing your grandson to the joys and beauties of chameleons. I do hope to see much more of you and Bud.
GrannyK
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Welcome to the forum!!! What a B eauty!! Camizone did it againHello All. Meet Bud, yeah another B ( my grandson named him). He is my Homer boy…..He blessed my home office with his amazing color and attitude on Sept 7. I do not normally post but I have been having a blast reading this thread and completely agree that Camiezone chams have some of the best colors
I will create another post to share my amazing purchase experience with her as well as the criteria, environmentals and closures, food, and “Bud” growing up info, other info I see asked for etc. So much so that I am finishing another enclosure for a new Ambanja she has for me as well. Very excited. I am glad I ran across this forum. This seems like a great forum and a giant difference in info sharing from my first chameleon days. 40+years ago!
I got a few picks of his normal chillin colors. Sleeping he is red and white(I think he is confused, it’s the whole skittle thing
I have seen that a nice healthy poo shot is a game changer for this group so will follow up with a nice one later.
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His shed colors(mad I think)
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Thank you for letting me share.
And lastly. The day he came home!
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and all these b names are toppings on the cake. Lol
Andrew1283
Chameleon Enthusiast
Are silk worms really $1.00 a worm? Any silk worms I found online are really tiny, like a grain of rice. I guess they grow to the size of a super worm but I don’t know how long that takes.
Do they have any significant nutritional value to justify the price for regular consumption by chams?
Just trying to figure out whether they’re better than hornworms.
My local Petco and Petsmart has been out of hornworms for months now. I’ve been getting them from a local pet shop but they’re $2.00 a piece. Yikes! I only give one horn worm a week because any more than one gives my chams the runs.
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Andrew1283
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Never mind I found this podcast
https://chameleonacademy.com/ep-141-silkworms-with-susan-marquardt/
With shipping, they’re more like $1.65 a piece including the extra food to sustain them past 2 days. But they’re 1.5” which is pretty good. I’m putting in an order!
https://chameleonacademy.com/ep-141-silkworms-with-susan-marquardt/
With shipping, they’re more like $1.65 a piece including the extra food to sustain them past 2 days. But they’re 1.5” which is pretty good. I’m putting in an order!
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elizaann2
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I order my horn worms on dubia.com. They are much cheaper there. I also get silks like 2 to 3 times a year because they are so expensive. I got eggs once to try and hatch them on my own but out of 1,000 I only had 20 survive and grow to the size where i could start to feed them off to my chams so that wasn’t any cheaper
Andrew1283
Chameleon Enthusiast
A reptile/plant store downtown sells a 25 count of hornworms for a dollar a piece but I don’t know what I would do with 25 horn worms. Only Tony my veiled will eat them!I order my horn worms on dubia.com. They are much cheaper there. I also get silks like 2 to 3 times a year because they are so expensive. I got eggs once to try and hatch them on my own but out of 1,000 I only had 20 survive and grow to the size where i could start to feed them off to my chams so that wasn’t any cheaper
I hope Tony and Bert love these large silk worms. And I doubly hope they don’t over hydrate Tony and give him the runs. I’ll report back
MissSkittles
Chameleon Enthusiast
It takes a bit of practice, but hatching out your own silkworms is the most economical. If you have a mulberry tree or good access to fresh mulberry leaves, it’s even more so. I found this super helpful. https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/posting-my-silkworm-experience.168402/ Hatching out your own, unless you have a good number of insect eating reptiles (or friends to share with) you’ll have more silkies than you can use. Let them complete their life cycle of cocooning and emerging as silk moths and they’ll make lots more eggs for you to hatch out as many as you want at one time. They do need a diapause of a few months in a warm fridge (wine fridge is perfect) and to be stored there as well. They can be stored for months. The longer they are stored though, the lower the hatch rate will be.
yoteango
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I bought 12 hornworms at a reptile expo this weekend from Josh's Frogs and the ones left are already maybe too big, and almost out of food. They've made so much poop.
I did some silkworms from eggs once, but went out of town and they all died, probably because they overheated from a window. My cousin thought he did something wrong and was a bit sad over it. Them perishing early might have been a good thing because I would have been overrun with silkworms. They'd be great for babies and if you had a large collection, or a mulberry tree. For me with a single chameleon I definitely won't be getting hornworm eggs, but I've got the silkworm chow, so will do those in the future eventually.
Though next time I won't try an obscene number of eggs.
I did some silkworms from eggs once, but went out of town and they all died, probably because they overheated from a window. My cousin thought he did something wrong and was a bit sad over it. Them perishing early might have been a good thing because I would have been overrun with silkworms. They'd be great for babies and if you had a large collection, or a mulberry tree. For me with a single chameleon I definitely won't be getting hornworm eggs, but I've got the silkworm chow, so will do those in the future eventually.
Though next time I won't try an obscene number of eggs.
Herpetosplease
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I use silkworms as one of my primary. I am usually hatching eggs but when that doesn’t work I supplement these pods when needed and they are sweet.
For 50 silkworms I pay 15$ For silkworms and with some food and shipping it about 44$. If your located on east coast or San Diego you can pick up and save on shipping.
Silkworms do get big. I added a pick for size reference. Yes they poop a lot.
Eggs are the way to go if you have the time. You can also set up a butterfly enclosure and let the big ones go to moth and start eggs production as well. I try but have not had the best( about 2 out of 3)
of luck with silkworms egg production. Bsfl ( my other staple) are best for that!! (As well as cheap and easy and you get the fly if wanted as a bonus) the top is BSFL/flys and bottom is silkies/Bombyx
Silkworms do get big. I added a pick for size reference. Yes they poop a lot.
Eggs are the way to go if you have the time. You can also set up a butterfly enclosure and let the big ones go to moth and start eggs production as well. I try but have not had the best( about 2 out of 3)
of luck with silkworms egg production. Bsfl ( my other staple) are best for that!! (As well as cheap and easy and you get the fly if wanted as a bonus) the top is BSFL/flys and bottom is silkies/Bombyx
MissSkittles
Chameleon Enthusiast
I’ve had too much fun learning how and then breeding my own bugs - silks, horns, supers, and even nasty crickets. For some strange reason, the freshly hatched silks and horns just make me so happy. Maternal instinct maybe.
Andrew1283
Chameleon Enthusiast
I think I’ll just buy the large silk worms!
elizaann2
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I just got my first order from them
Andrew1283
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Bert’s first shed with me. We have turned a corner. Yes he still gapes every time he sees me but then he settles down and eats from my hand. I think he will be much calmer as adult. It’s always just a momentary attitude followed by a very dominant walk around his enclosure. Then meal time. His colors are coming in.
Oh and he’s a baby dinosaur.
Oh and he’s a baby dinosaur.
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Camiezone
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Uhhh Bert is looking beautiful. I do hope he will be a chill adult, and will get over himself, lol. A suggestion, only let him get the "bonus" foods, like hornworms, superworms etc if he eats from your hand, and even better if he let's you hold him. Soon he will climb out onto your hand, cuz he then knows uhhhh the good stuff is following. I hope that works. Have you taken him outside in real sun yet? They LOVE THAT. but your doing great w him. Beautiful.
Herpetosplease
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She is so right on. Bud wants to come out every day and chill on the arm or shoulder. I thought this was a fluke considering the other chameleons I’ve had 
(had one veiled that gave me stitches). But as I am learning that many of homers babies are quite friendly, which leads me to believe that it may be a direct correlation of amazing husbandry/care/trust given as a baby or pre juvenile. The downside is that when my wife walks in Bud goes directly to his “I want to be on your shoulder branch”. For me he goes to “where’s my food branch and then looks at me as if I’m the dumb one”!
(had one veiled that gave me stitches). But as I am learning that many of homers babies are quite friendly, which leads me to believe that it may be a direct correlation of amazing husbandry/care/trust given as a baby or pre juvenile. The downside is that when my wife walks in Bud goes directly to his “I want to be on your shoulder branch”. For me he goes to “where’s my food branch and then looks at me as if I’m the dumb one”!ChamelaChameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
Caught RED handed. This is the reason I find broken stems. BOLT!
dinomom
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So true!
