Cammy has become vicious??

Ok, i jus went to my local pet store, bought a new cage and some other stuff.

Cage: 30L x 25H x 13 W - Mesh all round ( glass front) cost a fortune :D

UV light : Repti Glow 5.0 ( the orginal one)

Suppletments: Chameleon Dust - All in one Vitamins and mineral dust. - Contains Crude protien, crude fat, crude fiber, moisture, ash, clacium, vitamin A and Vitamin D-3

Mix bag of lettuce to gut feed my feed.

Waterfall and dew machine set up again.

Now i can only hope the vet can help me :)
 
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you also need a plain calcium supplement without the d-3 the d-3 needs to be given once every couple weeks is all. look at the letuce mix carefull if its just lettuce its not worth anything nutritionaly. the waterfall needs to be kept spotless as well they are usually just a bad idea.
Make sure you tell the vet about her lack of uvb and calcium.
you definatley look like you wana help goin right out a spendin cash to fix her good luck.
 
CNorton said:
If your cham stays indoors and doesn't get unfiltered sun on a consistent basis, coat your feeders with this


You also should be coating with this every now and then.


If your cham DOES get consistent sun, I like this calcium supplement from Stickey Tongue.
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Careful with rep cal stuff.. it is high in concentration... so use just a pinch when dusting.
 
To an earlier question, she hasnt eaten in about 4 days, but she has been drinking.

Do u think i should put a pinch of calcium dust in her water? or jus leave it until the vets.


she is still on the ground, i got A big bunch of fake leaves at the back, with a drippper going onto them. she hides under there.
 
Its very important that as soon as your cham isnt behaving normally you take it to the vets asap as chams get weak very quickly and get to a point where they are beyond saving. make sure its a vet that knows what they are on about. in my experience a lot of vets will just balg you because they have no idea about reptiles let alone chams. My vet treats the reptiles at my local zoo
 
Things just seem to be getting worse everyday, i reall hope she makes it til tuesday for the vet, its such a shame they couldnt fit me in ealier :(


Heres an update on here eye, major swelling :( - sorry about the massive picture, shows the eye better though.




soo hope she makes it :(:(
 
Poor little girl! Her casque looks swollen too. Could you try to get the Vets to see her as an emergency if you think it's too long to wait til Tuesday?
 
Miss Lily said:
Poor little girl! Her casque looks swollen too. Could you try to get the Vets to see her as an emergency if you think it's too long to wait til Tuesday?
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The only problem is, the Reptile Vet is only there tuesdays and thursdays, she works around different vets at different times, there no other vet near me that deals with reptiles :(



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Her eye swelling has gone down, and shes even hanging from a vine, 1st time ive seen her attempt to climb in 4 days now. heres a pic.

 
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From reading other threads, I believe that could be a sign of Gout, but I would wait for someone with a bit more experience to chime in.
 
Gout - Symptoms to watch out for:

Swelling joints and reduced mobility - Which she has.

your chameleon looked painful when climbing or walking (due to this, gout is often misdiagnosed as arthritis) - also, stuggles to move.

Over aggressiveness from your chameleon when his joints are touched. - she gets aggressive when i pick her up.

Anorexic and excessive drinking behavior. - whens she sits still, her stomache is really flat.


All i can do it Mist alot more often than normal, and hope she makes it til tuesday, such a shame the vet isnt open on a sunday, id try and arrange an emergency visit.
 
If this is gout, and its as severe as you're describing, then surgery for your cham might have to take place.

For now, try feeding her greens and vitamins (if she'll even eat), but slow down on the water (though still keep her hydrated) and protein, since a high protein diet caused this in the first place. This was probably due to not dusting crickets, so the only thing your cham was getting was protein, protein, and more protein. I can't remember if you fed her anything other than crickets?
 
I think if it is Gout, and is that severe, I am not sure surgery would be an option. Dave Weldon is the guy to talk to about Gout as he has lots of experience and info https://www.chameleonforums.com/warning-necropsy-photos-gout-17746/#post148483

My first cham had Gout and it affected most of the organs in her body. But I am by no means experienced enough to give thorough advice. See a vet, and if you can't wait, maybe PM one of the more senior members for advice.
 
This chameleon needs to be at the vets NOW! I will be surprised if it makes it to Tuesday. Sorry to be so harsh...but she is in serious trouble.

Changing the cage and the diet for the next couple of days isn't going to change that fact although you definitely need to make changes.

Has she got a place to dig to lay eggs in her cage?

Gutloading...lettuce is not a very good gutload. I feed my crickets (and other insects that will/should eat it) greens (dandelion, kale, endive, collards, escarole, mustard greens, etc.) and veggies (carrots, squash, sweet potato, sweet red pepper, etc.).

Appropriate temperatures play an important part in digestion. Exposure to UVB allows the chameleon to produce vitamin D3 which allows it to use the calcium in its diet. The UVB can come from the sun or a UVB long linear tube light such as Repti-sun 5.0. UVB will do no good if it passes through glass or plastic.

Many of the feeder insects have a poor ratio of calcium to phosphorous so dusting the insects at most feedings with a phos.-free calcium powder helps to make up for this.

Dusting twice a month with a vitamin powder will ensure that the chameleon gets any vitamins it may be missing in its diet without overdosing things. I use one with a beta carotene source of vitamin A because beta carotene won't build up in the system like preformed vitamin A will. Excess preformed vitamin A can prevent the D3 from doing its job and push the chameleon towards MBD. If needed, a little preformed can be given once in a while.

I also dust with a phos.-free calcium/D3 powder twice a month but be careful not to overdo this as D3 from supplements can build up in the system and cause problems.

Calcium, D3, phos. and vitamin A are important players in bone health and play a part in other systems too...so its important that they are in balance. Look at the supplements you use, the food you feed to the insects and what you feed to the chameleon when trying to attain this balance.
 
onerabbit, where are you located? Whats the next closest city and how far is it? Would there be a herp vet there?
 
Ok people, update :)

Shes still alive .. we had a nice trip to the vets.

good news : She doesnt have gout.

Bad news : Both her back legs are broken.

she is going to have an Xray in the morning, she is currently staying at the pet hospital.
Her bones are very weak, becuase of the lack of calcium.

If the vet thinks the bone are able to become strong again, then they will stick her on a plan, she will be tube Fed and drunk, with High Calcium and Vit D diet.

If theres no hope, and her legs wont get any better, the best option is to put her to sleep.

Really hoping for some good news tomorrow, and getting cammy fighting fit again.


Thanks to everyone for there help :)
 
Good news I guess..What about the burns or the swollen casque or whatever else was going BESIDES her back legs?
 
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