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ColorCham427
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That's all wrong... Theres a bunch of threads explaining why this home for your Veiled is a NO NO.
ColorCham427
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Glass...NO...
Substrate...NO...
Lights inside...NO...
And I'd put real plants in there.
Sorry but that's completely wrong.
Substrate...NO...
Lights inside...NO...
And I'd put real plants in there.
Sorry but that's completely wrong.
ColorCham427
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They need real air flow. The glass has a reflection with the lights. Glass makes the humidity a too much thing. They cannot climb on glass neither.
Jonie
New Member
That is setup how it would be at the current owners before i have brought it, as the top is mesh, i can put al lights outside, the plants will be replaced with live plants, and the three sides will be covered in polystyrene sheets like a fack rock background
ColorCham427
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OK guyyy......
Jonie
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Sorry mate, don't understand some american dialect
The viv also comes with a dripper
sandrachameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
I would not house two chameleons in there.
I would recommend a few ventilation holes be drilled on the sides/front to get some cross-circulation air flow (an all screen top is unlikely to be sufficient).
I would recommend a few ventilation holes be drilled on the sides/front to get some cross-circulation air flow (an all screen top is unlikely to be sufficient).
BocaJan
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A lot of our UK friends have to keep their chams in glass because of the awful weather. If you can modify that viv a bit like Sandra suggested you will probably be ok. I am hoping some UK folks will speak up here. You are definately on the right track with live plants, some fake vines and taking the light out of the viv and putting it on top. Also, removing the substrate is a definate YES. Substrate harbors bacteria and like waterfalls and water dishes are not healthy things for your cham.
ColorCham427
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Canopy Chameleons
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I don't understand.... have to keep them in glass because of awful weather? What does that mean? That it gets cold? It was -33C for over a week straight here.... with windchill -46C. That's -50.6F.... That's bad weather, but I would still never keep my Chams in glass enclosures because of the stagnant air and and what not.
summoner12
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Ryan Jarosek
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I would recommend blowing a fan over the top of the enclosure to circulate the air. That enclosure is really nice.
It is possible to control the humidity and temp in the Glass enclosure it just takes a little more work than a screen enclosure. You may want to watch and be sure they are not spooked by their reflection. Thats my biggest issue with glass. Don't house them together that is never a good idea. If you split them make sure they cannot see each other.
I choose to use screen but have seen and know glass works fine if large enough and if ventilation is considered. Its usually a problem with someone who sets up a too small an enclosure with no ventilation.
Like everyone is saying I agree... lights outside, real plants , drilling holes is a great idea and don't forget drainage .. you don't want standing water.
Edit.. Temperature will be a challenge. To keep the ambient temps correct may be a bit of a challenge.
It is possible to control the humidity and temp in the Glass enclosure it just takes a little more work than a screen enclosure. You may want to watch and be sure they are not spooked by their reflection. Thats my biggest issue with glass. Don't house them together that is never a good idea. If you split them make sure they cannot see each other.
I choose to use screen but have seen and know glass works fine if large enough and if ventilation is considered. Its usually a problem with someone who sets up a too small an enclosure with no ventilation.
Like everyone is saying I agree... lights outside, real plants , drilling holes is a great idea and don't forget drainage .. you don't want standing water.
Edit.. Temperature will be a challenge. To keep the ambient temps correct may be a bit of a challenge.
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ChromaChameleons
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Can you replace the front plexi door with a framed screen door???
Brad Ramsey
Retired Moderator
I am among those who think this enclosure will work.
I agree with Ryan ( and others who gave some good advice ... Sandra... although I would be too nervous to drill holes in glass!)
The temps and humidity will be a bit trickier to get established, but once you have it figured out it will be fine.
The fan is a good idea, and I would try several arrangements to determine the best way to get air moving through the environment.
My initial thought is to have the fan blow over the top (not down into) the enclosure to draw air up and out ... or perhaps direct the airflow up so that the fan pulls air out of it.
If you can rig a way to hang the basking spot over the enclosure, then you can raise or lower it to get an ideal basking temperature.
I would heavily plant this environment with live plants.
Drainage may be an issue too, although if you employed a dripper and collection container, you would not have much issue with that.
Do not house more than one of either gender together.
I don't really put much stock in the idea that a chameleon would see and be stressed by it's reflection in the glass.
Personally, I have had great luck using all screen enclosures, but I know of several keepers who have utilized all different kinds of cages.
http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleon.blogspot.com/
-Brad
I agree with Ryan ( and others who gave some good advice ... Sandra
... although I would be too nervous to drill holes in glass!)The temps and humidity will be a bit trickier to get established, but once you have it figured out it will be fine.
The fan is a good idea, and I would try several arrangements to determine the best way to get air moving through the environment.
My initial thought is to have the fan blow over the top (not down into) the enclosure to draw air up and out ... or perhaps direct the airflow up so that the fan pulls air out of it.
If you can rig a way to hang the basking spot over the enclosure, then you can raise or lower it to get an ideal basking temperature.
I would heavily plant this environment with live plants.
Drainage may be an issue too, although if you employed a dripper and collection container, you would not have much issue with that.
Do not house more than one of either gender together.
I don't really put much stock in the idea that a chameleon would see and be stressed by it's reflection in the glass.
Personally, I have had great luck using all screen enclosures, but I know of several keepers who have utilized all different kinds of cages.
http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleon.blogspot.com/
-Brad
