Chameleon acting strange???? HELP :(

dseriesrider

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Cage Info:
Cage Type - What kind of cage are you using? What is the size?
- wire mesh cage with aluminum frame, 2x2x4

Lighting - What kind of lighting are you using?
- reptisun 5.0, 24"

How long do you keep the lights on during the day?
-12hr reptisun 12 hr nightglo

Temperature - What temperature range have you created? Basking spot temp? What is the temperature at night?
-low 80's day to mid 70's night, unsure of basking temperature, but the bulb is set back from the cage - 100w dayglo spotlight bulb

Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels?
-unsure of humidity level, but we have been misting heavily twice a day. We have a fluker's drip system on top of the cage.

Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
-Rubber tree, asparagus fern, umbrella tree, fluker's artificial vines, and wooden bird ladders.

Location - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas?
-they are located in a separate room, that has low traffic, no fans, and a closed air vent.

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon.
-we have a male and female Veiled, 4 mos old

Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What kind of schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
-we've been feeding baby dubias and hissers, and 2 week old crix. about 5-10 insects for each. Breakfast at about 7am and supper at 5pm. We are using Fluker's gutload.

Supplements - What are you dusting your feeders with and what kind of schedule do you use? Ca supplement 3 xs a week. We've only had them for 4 days, so I haven't given them any of the herptivite.

Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
-bottle mister, when misting the cage both of them will come over to the water bottle and drink from it and the leaves. We also have a Fluker's drip bottle on top of the cage.

Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings.
We've only seen the female use the bathroom, there was 3 segments 1st was white and 2nd and 3rd were greenish brown.

History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
-We've only had them since the 21st, we purchased them from an expo in South Carolina from FLChams.

Current Problem - The current problem that you are concerned about.

-I have two questions. We have witnessed them show some strange behavior.

The first time we saw it I was feeding both chams. I heard this cry like a cat with a hairball. I looked up and the female ballooned up, mouth open, necked swelled, and body real tall and fat. Then she arched her body into an "S" shape. She did the "S" shape for about 10 seconds, but it took a couple minutes for her to go back to her normal size. Then two days later she showed the same behavior. I thought maybe she was choking or the roach was getting stuck in her throat.

Yesterday I saw the male do the same exact thing. When the male did it, I was watering the cage. I had not feed him anything for a while. I got kind of close to him with the water bottle and he just swelled up.

Is this a defensive posture? Are they trying to use the bathroom/constipated/impaction? Is it like a yawn/strech?

Second Question:

Ive seen the female present her colors twice, but not at the same time that the above happened. The last time it happened was about 7:30 this morning. She will stop and get VERY bright with her blacks spots, they look like freckles. Is she pissed off and telling me to get back? She kind of has this stance like shes mad??

Im new to chams, I did a lot of reading before I purchased them to make sure that I was prepared for owning such a high maintenance pet...but this behavior just doesn't seem right to me?

I have a video of her showing her colors but I dont know that I can load it to the forum. I'll try to get my fiance to download it.

Thanks,
Brittney
 
Okay, I'm going to list some things ;)

Temps are a bit too hot at night.
Need to find out the basking temp (VERY important)
Do not use any light or heat source at night.
You need to mist them until you see them drink (at least in the morning)
Flukers cricket food is a better maintenance food for crickets and roaches than it is a gut load ... not really giving much to the chameleons with this.

http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleon.blogspot.com/

Now ... the really important info.
She is stressed because she is housed with that male. They need to be separated.
The behavior you describe is yawning and stretching. Is there sometimes a little tremor at the end? It kind of freaked me out the first time I saw it too.

-Brad
 
I disagree.
The female is going to be sexually mature in another month and the male will be right behind her at about 6 months.
Do you want them breeding? I wouldn't before the female is one year old.
If they are clutch mates ... I wouldn't at all.
You're going to have to separate them anyway ... why not now?

-Brad
 
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