Chameleon Burrito!

[Remkon]

If you read the previous, you would know it actually helps chameleons with constipation. Warm water helps loosen muscles, anyone with at least some medical/vet experience knows this.

This may be true but your exchanging one 'evil' (constipation) with another (high doses of stress)... You could have accomplished the same with higher temperatures in the enclosure and warm mistings or putting him in the shower (as described in various topics) without giving him a lot of stress....

Also don't hold your chameleon on his back! He doesn't like to 'play dead' reptiles will shut down when held on their backs, this is not because they like it but because they have trouble breathing in that position! Reptiles don't have diaphragms so held backwards basically their lungs collapse and they will keep still to conserve oxygen.

 

[Lizzie The Chameleon]

oh i was just reading your other thread about chameleon commissions to raise money for a heater! wow i'm glad you got the temps up 40 degrees! love your drawing by the way!

 

[phantomchameleon]

oh i was just reading your other thread about chameleon commissions to raise money for a heater! wow i'm glad you got the temps up 40 degrees! love your drawing by the way!

Yeah! The heater actually came in yesterday and Slurpy has been cozy and warm when he's sleeping! My grandmother said jokingly that she'd knit him a sweater if i wasn't able to raise money for a heater.
And thank you. Drawing chameleons has been great practice for me.

 

[Lizzie The Chameleon]

Yeah! The heater actually came in yesterday and Slurpy has been cozy and warm when he's sleeping! My grandmother said jokingly that she'd knit him a sweater if i wasn't able to raise money for a heater.
And thank you. Drawing chameleons has been great practice for me.

that's awesome!

 

[KeopiCat]

You could have accomplished the same with higher temperatures in the enclosure and warm mistings or putting him in the shower (as described in various topics) without giving him a lot of stress....

(I'd like to preface this by saying this is an honest question I have and not an attack on what you're saying. I doubt you'd interpret it like that but I just want to be sure.)

With regards to the shower, I noticed how when I shower my chameleon during shed to help him out he closes his eyes for short periods of time and sort of sits still. Before I read this post I thought that was him being content, but now I can tell that's not the case and I've stopped showering him for now. In your opinions is that him shutting down from stress or is he just trying to keep water out of his eyes while he drinks?

 

[Decadancin]

(I'd like to preface this by saying this is an honest question I have and not an attack on what you're saying. I doubt you'd interpret it like that but I just want to be sure.)

With regards to the shower, I noticed how when I shower my chameleon during shed to help him out he closes his eyes for short periods of time and sort of sits still. Before I read this post I thought that was him being content, but now I can tell that's not the case and I've stopped showering him for now. In your opinions is that him shutting down from stress or is he just trying to keep water out of his eyes while he drinks?

Good point, this would not be the same. Although there is likely a bit of stress in this situation, it is not enough to cause total shut down and fear. Normally the water droplets will simply stimulate drinking and do much more good than harm.

 

[KeopiCat]

Good point, this would not be the same. Although there is likely a bit of stress in this situation, it is not enough to cause total shut down and fear. Normally the water droplets will simply stimulate drinking and do much more good than harm.

Ok, that's good to know. Thanks!

 

[Remkon]

(I'd like to preface this by saying this is an honest question I have and not an attack on what you're saying. I doubt you'd interpret it like that but I just want to be sure.)

With regards to the shower, I noticed how when I shower my chameleon during shed to help him out he closes his eyes for short periods of time and sort of sits still. Before I read this post I thought that was him being content, but now I can tell that's not the case and I've stopped showering him for now. In your opinions is that him shutting down from stress or is he just trying to keep water out of his eyes while he drinks?

That depends... My jax closes his eyes a lot when he gets misted but you can see from his posture and color that he is enjoying it and he will often drink while doing it.
Also cleaning his eyes they will close em but you will notice them clean the which looks kinda scary at first.

But yea, being taken out of his enclosure to most chams brings some level of stress but I don't think a little bit of stress will do harm to a healthy chameleon and the benefits he gets from his shower will outweigh the stress, besides nature can be stressful too.

We want to minimize unnecessary and high levels of stress, eliminating it all together will be impossible anyways.

 

[leedragon]

That depends... My jax closes his eyes a lot when he gets misted but you can see from his posture and color that he is enjoying it and he will often drink while doing it.
Also cleaning his eyes they will close em but you will notice them clean the which looks kinda scary at first.

But yea, being taken out of his enclosure to most chams brings some level of stress but I don't think a little bit of stress will do harm to a healthy chameleon and the benefits he gets from his shower will outweigh the stress, besides nature can be stressful too.

We want to minimize unnecessary and high levels of stress, eliminating it all together will be impossible anyways.

I never see them as ejoying the shower becuae of they closing their eyes but to not get hit in the eyes with water dropes

 

[Remkon]

I never see them as ejoying the shower becuae of they closing their eyes but to not get hit in the eyes with water dropes

Well my jax will raise his head and close his eyes so it looks like he's enjoying it...
Can't really say what's really going on in his mind but it looks like he's enjoying it otherwise he would get to a dry spot.

 

[leedragon]

Well my jax will raise his head and close his eyes so it looks like he's enjoying it...
Can't really say what's really going on in his mind but it looks like he's enjoying it otherwise he would get to a dry spot.

well they are not mammals so we should not anthropomorphize. who knows why they are really doing that and not moving. maybe because they are trying to breath better by raising their heads. and they are getting hydrated and they can drink and wash their eyes so that is why they are not moving. but I would say that they are they close their eyes because they enjoy it. they maybe do enjoy it but behaving like that is not telling you rhat they are enjoying it