Cross breeding?
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birthnugget
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o lord i feel a debate coming
birthnugget
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From what I know, it's possible because both are of the same species, but are just different subspecies (i.e. the difference between C. parsonii parsonii and C. parsonii cristifer). As far as being healthy or safe, I have no clue.
birthnugget
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I feel like jpowell86 and jajeanspierre have some helpful input on this, as both are successful breeders with very pretty and very healthy chameleons. Both breed the less common species from what I know
Blang
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If you breed 100% transluscents/ both male & female parents the babies will have 100% of the translucent gene & have the white feet! Your male has 0% translucent in his gene pool & breeding him to 100% translucent female the babies will have 50% of each parents gene pool! So when your eggs hatch some of your babies will show the translucent trait of the white feet & some won't show the white trait on the feet but will still carry the translucent gene ! Hope this helps explain it a little better for you!
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birthnugget
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Yes, 7th grade gene studies are coming back to me now. Breeding the two is possible, safe, I would even say, but the result is not going to be a 50% regular Veiled Chameleon and a 50% Translucent Veiled Chameleon. The only 50% ratio you'll see is that among the offspring. Say momma has a clutch of 30: if all 30 are fertile and 'good eggs' so to speak, then 15 will be translucent and 15 will be regular. To make a long story short, if you breed them, you'll just have more of what you started out with. So, if you just want some babies, go for it. If you want mixes, it's a no-go
Chris Anderson
Dr. House of Chameleons
Just to dispel the misinformation that has been posted in this thread, a male veiled chameleon and a female high translucent veiled chameleon are both the same species: Chamaeleo calyptratus. In fact, they are the same subspecies as well: Chamaeleo calyptratus calyptratus. They are just two different color morphs, much like a normal and a piebald ball python, or a blonde and brunette human. They absolutely can breed and there will be no harm to the babies or parents.
Further, the translucent gene is a codominant trait. That means that a normal veiled bred with a high (or super) translucent will result in 100% low translucent. Two low translucent breeding will result in 25% normal, 50% low, and 25% high translucent. A normal bred with a low will result in 50% normal and 50% low translucent. Finally, two high translucents breeding will result in 100% high translucents.
Chris
Further, the translucent gene is a codominant trait. That means that a normal veiled bred with a high (or super) translucent will result in 100% low translucent. Two low translucent breeding will result in 25% normal, 50% low, and 25% high translucent. A normal bred with a low will result in 50% normal and 50% low translucent. Finally, two high translucents breeding will result in 100% high translucents.
Chris
Blang
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So was my post wrong! Just wondering! Thanks
Chris Anderson
Dr. House of Chameleons
Your post would have been correct if the translucent trait was a simple recessive trait, but the reason we see "high" and "low" trans is because it is a codominant trait where the heterozygotes exhibit a little translucent expression, and the homozygotes exhibit considerably more of the gene.
Chris
Blang
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OK thanks!
