Cute little lizard I picked up in Anaheim.

[Chuck67]

It's actually more complicated than that. Each species has some sort of state, county and city regulations (and of course federal regulations). Technically in CA, you can capture one or two native rattle snakes yourself and keep it in your possesion without the proper license or permit. However, the county of Los Angeles overall prohibit that. But there are some cities within Los Angeles that allows it. In San Bernardino, overall they are okay with capturing and keeping native rattle snakes in your possesn and few cities within San Bernardino that completely ban them. A very vague and general rule of thumb is the more civilized/populated the city/area is, the more likely they will ban keeping venomous species; the more rural the area is, the more likely the city/area will be lenient towards having them in your possession. Note that these laws state that the person in possession actually captures these native species themselves. Buying them requires special permits that usually researchers and educators can only get. I only know the laws and regulations concerning the rattle snake species because two of my friends personally have rattle snakes as pets and I was interested in getting one (I know, stupid idea), but the whole capturing it yourself pretty much killed that plan thankfully. Also if you want to keep more than two specimens of rattle snakes, you have to get 2 documents. One document (permit or license) to actually go out in the field to acquire the animals and take them out of their natural habitat. Another document (license or permit) to keep them in your possession.

I don't know the rules and regulations of that particular species, Heloderma horridum, but I would check with your local county and city regulations. Also if you live in a place with a HOA, you might want to keep that animal your personal secret.

I do believe a fishing license is required to catch reptiles in California...go figure on that one ehh...

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

I do believe a fishing license is required to catch reptiles in California...go figure on that one ehh...

Yeah it is. you can get a ticket if you even pick one up without a permit. Never understood that one.

 

[AReptile]

Wow I've never seen a beaded lizard, it looks like a gila monster with yellow instead of orange.

 

[Syn]

No chewing required envenmonation from a split second bite can occur. Extreme pain, vomiting then loss of bowel and bladder control all within minutes.

Chuck

How much experience do you have with something like this, or even a beaded?

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

Wow I've never seen a beaded lizard, it looks like a gila monster with yellow instead of orange.

They are a lot alike. I would really like a gila but that isn't possible here in cali.

 

[Chuck67]

Hey Chuck , it would take some chewing to get enough into a human to kill them. That is what I was refering to. If you remove yourself from the bite quick enough you have more of a chance than you do with fangs.

Yes, but you still get a trip to the hospital. Been nailed twice and it aint no fun....

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

How much experience do you have with something like this, or even a beaded?

Ouch hopefully not a bite I do hope to avoid losing control of my bowels

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

Yes, but you still get a trip to the hospital. Been nailed twice and it aint no fun....

There is the answer to that. WOW. I plan on being very careful. Do you keep any now? You are close by did you go to the show?

 

[Chuck67]

How much experience do you have with something like this, or even a beaded?

I have had beadeds for years. Raised 3 from hatchlings, others obtained as adults.

These animals are dangerous and should be treated as such, not impulse buys. They can be very tempermental and are very quick to bite and bites do occur, one does not have to "provoke" a gila or beaded to get them to bite.

Chuck

 

[Syn]

I have had beadeds for years. Raised 3 from hatchlings, others obtained as adults.

These animals are dangerous and should be treated as such, not impulse buys. They can be very tempermental and are very quick to bite and bites do occur, one does not have to "provoke" a gila or beaded to get them to bite.

Chuck

Living in Arizona I know about Gilas. Those things are definitely... interesting.

Just curious, it's always nice to know that some people are interested in Beadeds and the like.

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

I have had beadeds for years. Raised 3 from hatchlings, others obtained as adults.

These animals are dangerous and should be treated as such, not impulse buys. They can be very tempermental and are very quick to bite and bites do occur, one does not have to "provoke" a gila or beaded to get them to bite.

Chuck

Thanks Chuck, I did not really mean they have to be provoked. I think I was just trying to stress the fact that care and precautions need to be taken. I have researched and have been fascinated by them for quite some time. I read and read but just starting out I am relying on 0 experience. I purchased a pair of hex armor gloves that extend up to the elbow to work with it. I respect their temperament and it shows as a baby how temperamental they can be.

 

[Chuck67]

Thanks Chuck, I did not really mean they have to be provoked. I think I was just trying to stress the fact that care and precautions need to be taken. I have researched and have been fascinated by them for quite some time. I read and read but just starting out I am relying on 0 experience. I purchased a pair of hex armor gloves that extend up to the elbow to work with it. I respect their temperament and it shows as a baby how temperamental they can be.

They are amazing animals. Beadeds get quite large 30 inches. Each with their own personality. Watch for impaction if feeding rodents with hair. They can be like black roughneck monitors (bird eaters) if fed too much hair. As with any high dollar animal get them used to dead food so they the predator does not inadvertantly get injured by the prey.

I wanted gilas, expecially the banded yet not in CA, reticulateds maybe but bandeds are even tougher (native species) educational permits are available and can be obtained if the application is done right.

I wish you much luck with yours ...Just be careful. It not only sucks getting bit by one but it is also quite embarrassing (see above posts)...

Chuck

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

I wish you much luck with yours ...Just be careful. It not only sucks getting bit by one but it is also quite embarrassing (see above posts)...

Chuck

Yeah I saw that

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

As with any high dollar animal get them used to dead food so they the predator does not inadvertantly get injured by the prey.

He did eat a FT pinky last night so looks like that wont be too hard to do.

 

[AReptile]

Do they eat insects as well?

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

Do they eat insects as well?

If they can get a hold of them they will eat small birds, mammals,eggs,lizards,amphibians and insects

 

[Vegas Chad]

No chewing required envenmonation from a split second bite can occur. Extreme pain, vomiting then loss of bowel and bladder control all within minutes.

Chuck

This I will agree with…

When I saw it on the table and Ryan shelling out the cash I nearly $#t myself, then also again when I tried to give him a little pat on the head. Thank goodness for that ninja training.

 

[robmd1]

I missed this yesterday... that is way cool ryan congrats...as for a bite the pain ok but the losin control of ya bowels? im out that one...

 

[KingJulien]

How funny that such a cute little lizard could be that nasty!

Maybe as an extra precaution you could put on a diaper as well as the glove.

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

How funny that such a cute little lizard could be that nasty!

Maybe as an extra precaution you could put on a diaper as well as the glove.

LOL, that might be a good idea