Eye pouches???

[snookey266]

Have any of you ever seen this pouch on both eyes issue in a Veiled chameleon before? I took him to a reptile vet and he said he didn't think it was an eye infection and he has seen this previously in a couple of other veiled chameleons and he removed the lumps surgically. We tried eye antibiotic ointment just to give it a shot but no improvement. I originally thought it may be eye irritation from his ficus tree it probably 6 weeks ago. He is 9 to 10 months old and is in great condition otherwise. Thanks for any input you may have.

Holly

 

[wheresstimpy]

wow, that looks strange, does it seem to affect him at all in his daily routine?

 

[THECHAMMAN]

i have never seen anything like that ever. it is crazy. btw, on the 1st pic, he has some fat pads on his casque, so i would shorten his diet.

 

[Julirs]

Actually this is not totally uncommon in Veileds. Sometimes they will actually get that look before a shed. Makes them look like they have "elephant-eyes".

 

[beeze]

I've not seen it before but keep us posted on his progress.

 

[snookey266]

It does not affect his normal daily routine. He is fine in every other way!

Chamman - Where do you mean on the casque? I actually was thinking he is a bit thin. Maybe I am wrong.

The eye pouches basically stay like that all the time. Does not seem to change due to shedding.

 

[snookey266]

Here are a couple of photos that you can see his body in better. Does he look thin or overweight? Thanks for you replies!

 

[jannb]

I don't think that he looks overweight. How long has this been going on with his eyes? Jann

 

[snookey266]

Since he was about 3 to 4 months old. He is about 9 or 10 months now. I don't think he looks overweight either. As I mentioned before - I thought he could use a little bit of weight!

 

[BocaJan]

I would recommend you keep misting. Perhaps he is just a little dehydrated and his eyes are a bit sunken in. Does he roll his eyes when you mist him? He is a great looking vieled and you probably don't have to be worried.

 

[snookey266]

He actually gets to chill outside under a mister 2 to three days a week. He loves it! He also gets misted daily in his enclosure.

 

[coolmoon]

My male has the same thing but only in one eye. Its been that way about 5 months and my vet had no idea either. It doesn't bother him at all so I have just watched it. Sorry I don't have an answer but you aren't alone.

 

[snookey266]

Coolmoon - I sent you a PM!

 

[spencer k]

i have found a couple articles (thanks google) of chams with the same condition.
http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/chamaeleonidae/80992-sick-veiled-chameleon.html
http://www.reptilechannel.com/repti...-health/lizard-health/chameleon-eyes-bleeding

would anyone happen to know if this condition is hereditary?

 

[snookey266]

Very interesting. Thanks for posting those articles. Very strange that these eye pouches have been seen by a few cham owners. Sure is a mystery - would be nice to figure it out!

 

[Sang]

hey snook, my friend in peoria, her vieled has this as well, but not to that extreme, its very light in his eyes so to speak.

 

[snookey266]

Sang - has she had vet look at the pouches? If so, what did the vet say about them?
Thanks