Female died after laying one egg

[ColorCham427]

Warning!!! Picture of female after i removed eggs from her

Hey all, do not look down at pictures if you do not wish to view organs, etc.

My female Peaches died today. She was found in her tunnel with the front half of her body in the tunnel.

I took the eggs from her body and put them in containers now incubating, just asking if it's worth it?

Only the one egg that was found stuck to her, seems to be calcified with a complete shell.

The other 33 eggs feel like hard boiled eggs.

Got this from some web page -

http://www.exoticpetvet.net/reptile/femsurg.html

"Once the ovum has ovulated, it will have albumen and the shell added in the oviduct, and at this point, it becomes an egg. Prior to ovulation, the mature follicles will appear as a cluster of grapes and are of soft-tissue density on radiographs. Once the female has ovulated and the eggs have been completed by the addition of the shell, the eggs will be visible on radiographs due to their calcification."

They definitely dont have shells... unless, straight out of her body they were so lubed that they just felt completely soft... If one egg was already laid, I would think more of them would of been "completed", yet none of them were..? I did just remove the veiny skin... so they were wet, just not firm/hard. Should I even bother incubating the 33 eggs?

A few of the eggs had a dark yellow spot on them, while another few had a lighter yellow tint to them. Was yolk being absorbed in them at the time while she passed?

Thanks for any help+insight and I hope I made some sense asking all these questions.

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[KevinA]

It looks like she has a mouth full of dirt. Did her tunnel callapse on her? How did you prepare her egg laying soil.

Keep the eggs if you want. If their bad, they will srivel up in a month or two.

p.s. THe pic with the pumkin carving knife is gross.

 

[Titan]

I got a stack of books and decided not to look for it, But I do recall reading about a Guy removing the eggs from a female in almost the same situation as you. He said he incubated and had success in hatching later. So It is worth a try, since you caught this within hours of death. Unless the Chameleon had different problems, or infertile eggs then they will go bad as stated above in a couple of weeks. and yes newly laid eggs do feel like hard boiled eggs that you freshly just pealed the shell off of. Sort of spongy abit and slightly slimy.

 

[kinyonga]

Sorry for the loss of your female.

Eggs are oval and follicles are round...so those are eggs. They look the way eggs look when taken from a dead female. The "strings" that are between the eggs is (I think) part of the reproductive system and that same membrane would be covering the eggs. You were right to remove that membrane. I'm no expert on this..its just from what I have read and seen. I would incubate them. Don't be surprised if they get a red "mold" on them. I don't think it will hurt the eggs if it happens.

 

[ChrisnLisa]

Sorry to hear about your loss . It is possible to save the eggs, if they are fertile, and if they were removed quickly after death. I would definitely incubate them, you will know soon enough if they are bad.

Kinyonga beat me to it.

 

[desultadox]

whoooooa, where was the warning?! >_<

 

[laurie]

Brian I am really sorry you lost your little girl. I hpoe the eggs are good, it is never easy to lose one of your chams but maybe the babies will keep a part of her alive.

 

[PantherVeileD]

How old was she? Im on my mobile phone so - cant do research about peach. I scare for my female that it would happen as well. Sorry for your lost tho.

 

[Eric Adrignola]

Looks like the eggs of a female that died egg-bound. When the eggs are not laid in time - for whatever reason - they start to go downhill, deteriorate, getting yellow spots, becoming softer, less calcified, etc. Incubate them, it won't hurt. There is a secretion from the oviduct that keeps them from getting mold. When surgically removed, they often lack this, and may mold even if fertile and otherwise viable.

 

[blackbetty]

whoooooa, where was the warning?! >_<

I agree...That was a rude awakening.

Im sorry for your loss. Was she with a male? If she was, then incubate them and see what happens. If she wasn't, then they are just infertile.

 

[Howdyco]

ColorCham427 You Have Our condolences.
We are saddened for you and at your loss of Peaches.
Howie

 

[BocaJan]

I am so sorry for the loss of your little beauty peaches.

 

[ColorCham427]

What is this red mold? I am interested in where you got that info. I'd really like to begin reading more about Panthers and laying, being gravid etc.

Thanks all for the fast replies. Peaches was a very special girl, such a sweetheart.

My mom had found her in the tunnel half way, I wish I knew what had happened, I can only come up with guesses...

 

[blackbetty]

Summoner said he thought he saw that she had a mouth full of dirt. Is that a correct evaluation? It is hard to tell from the picture as its not head on but does look like soil is in the mouth.

 

[ColorCham427]

She had a little bit of dirt in the opening of her mouth. I checked her mouth and deeper, nothing really at all.

p.s. sorry for no warning of the pictures.

 

[blackbetty]

Hmm, I know when Betty dug, she would come out with her snout covered. Maybe it was just something as simple as being eggbound. It does happen. Either way, we are all very sorry for your loss.

PS, was she with a male for her eggs to be fertile?

 

[NewOwner]

She had a little bit of dirt in the opening of her mouth. I checked her mouth and deeper, nothing really at all.

p.s. sorry for no warning of the pictures.

Very sorry for your loss.. and i agree with the geuss, the dirt in her mouth

Still have a question...

What was her egg laying bin (Dimensions, Substate, Etc.)

P.s Please if you could post a warning, on your first post, just edit it? Sorry for your loss, and i dont mean to sound heartless... but it just was a shock without a warning for me... Thanks for posting pics - its probably 1 of the best ways for us to help you, but a warning will help (= Thanks! And again, very sorry for your loss, and i am not looking forward to when my cham dies.... love her to bits!

 

[Sancho]

Warning would of been nice Sorry for the loss of your cham I know how it feels to lose one But I could never did what you did in getting the eggs out. I personally would of laid her to rest as she was.

 

[kinyonga]

I have seen the red mold when I removed eggs from a dead female veiled. As Eric said, the eggs when laid have a coating on them but when they are taken from the dead female they seem to miss getting this coating.

 

[Syn]

Curiosity kills me often. I'm so sorry for your loss. I teared up a bit.