Few questions about set up

Posey

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Hello everyone. I have been reading and researching on here since my son rescued a chameleon from a friend who no longer wanted her and have learned so much information! I really thank you all. There are a few things I have been wondering about that I couldn't find a direct answer so thought I would ask the experts here :)
First of all we have a female veiled that is about 6-7 months old. We set up her cage (a large dragon strand breeder this weekend). Most of my questions are about the setup because I want to make sure she is happy and comfortable.
1. We have some dowel rods (different sized) and some of the fake bendy vine. I've seen her on the dowels but not the vine and I have more to put in but I was wondering do they prefer the stability of the dowel or is the little bit of give the vines have okay? I don't want her to feel unstable or unsteady but I figure that they walk on vines in the real world and do fine.
2. How steep can they climb. We have one dowel rod that basically goes from top 1/4 of cage to bottom 1/4. I haven't seen her on it and wonder if it is too steep to climb
3. Has anyone used bird perches? I saw one at petsmart that looked like a real branch (said it had been heat cured)and had a bolt you could bolt it right to the dragon strand ledge. I thought it would be a good way to give her additional branches to climb on.
They also had a ladder made out of wood and rope - I was wondering if I hung it down the side she could climb up it or if I stretches it across she could walk on it - again not sure how stable they want things to feel underfoot.
I had a rock type bridge for her basking area thinking that she would like the stability but read that they don't like to walk on flat surfaces and although it isn't completely flat it isn't like a branch so I plan to take that out unless people say she might like it. I have seen her on it but only once.
4. So do I need to keep a place for her to lay eggs in her cage at all times since we won't know how to tell when she needs to lay? Will she not eat the sand and get sick? And how do you keep it moist enough for her to dig? Does the misting system do that?
5. We just did her cage and put her in it and she has been hissing at us. I know she needs to get used to the new cage but if I want to make changes for the better is it okay to take her out and fix it up and put her back or should we wait a couple weeks until she is settled and then change things. I don't want her to feel unsafe.
6. We are going on vacation in a month for a week and will have grandparents feed her and they aren't too happy about feeding live crickets - they will if they have to but I saw a can of crickets at petsmart - looked like cat food can. Would that be okay to feed her for just a week?
Sorry for all the questions and especially if any of them are dumb or uninformed. I'm trying to learn all I can. These are complicated little reptiles and I don't want her to be unhappy! Thanks again!
 
We have some dowel rods (different sized) and some of the fake bendy vine. I've seen her on the dowels but not the vine and I have more to put in but I was wondering do they prefer the stability of the dowel or is the little bit of give the vines have okay? I don't want her to feel unstable or unsteady but I figure that they walk on vines in the real world and do fine.

The more stability you can provide, the better. I would secure the vines to the dowel rods with little zip ties.

How steep can they climb. We have one dowel rod that basically goes from top 1/4 of cage to bottom 1/4. I haven't seen her on it and wonder if it is too steep to climb

They can climb a 100% vertical as long as the surface is something easily gripped. However, I would focus on making sure there a more horizontal perches for her than vertical. I like to have a horizontal perch every 6 inches or so. This will help her thermoregulate.

Has anyone used bird perches? I saw one at petsmart that looked like a real branch (said it had been heat cured)and had a bolt you could bolt it right to the dragon strand ledge. I thought it would be a good way to give her additional branches to climb on.
They also had a ladder made out of wood and rope - I was wondering if I hung it down the side she could climb up it or if I stretches it across she could walk on it - again not sure how stable they want things to feel underfoot.
I had a rock type bridge for her basking area thinking that she would like the stability but read that they don't like to walk on flat surfaces and although it isn't completely flat it isn't like a branch so I plan to take that out unless people say she might like it. I have seen her on it but only once.

The bird perches actually work great. I personally am not a fan of the ladders with rope because I have seen chameleons get their nails hung. No sense in risking it IMO. I would get rid of the rock type bridge because some rock can hold tremendous amounts of heat and she could very easily burn her feet.

So do I need to keep a place for her to lay eggs in her cage at all times since we won't know how to tell when she needs to lay? Will she not eat the sand and get sick? And how do you keep it moist enough for her to dig? Does the misting system do that?

Yes, you need to have a laying bin available for her. The play sand will hold moisture for quite some time, so if you moisten it prior to putting it in the bin, it will maintain its moisture levels with the daily misting.

We just did her cage and put her in it and she has been hissing at us. I know she needs to get used to the new cage but if I want to make changes for the better is it okay to take her out and fix it up and put her back or should we wait a couple weeks until she is settled and then change things. I don't want her to feel unsafe.

It is better to go ahead and make all the changes now. You don't want to let her settle in and then make more drastic changes to her enclosure. I would go ahead and make my changes and then let her settle in for a couple of week with little involvement.


We are going on vacation in a month for a week and will have grandparents feed her and they aren't too happy about feeding live crickets - they will if they have to but I saw a can of crickets at petsmart - looked like cat food can. Would that be okay to feed her for just a week?
Sorry for all the questions and especially if any of them are dumb or uninformed. I'm trying to learn all I can. These are complicated little reptiles and I don't want her to be unhappy! Thanks again!

I would under no circumstances feed her can crickets. They are not a good source of nutrition and chameleons feed only on live insects. Not saying that the chameleon wouldn't take one, but it's just not for the best. If they have an issue feeding crickets, there are many other feeder sources that they may be comfortable with. Like silkworms, hornworms, dubia, etc. You could also put them in containers prior to you leaving, so all they would have to do is dump them in the enclosure. That way they wouldn't have to touch them. Just a thought! Congratulations on the chameleon and welcome to the Forums. Ask as many questions as you need. Everyone here is very willing to help!
 
I like real branches as vertical climbing structure. I have maple trees in my yard and have harvested a good a dozen or so. Washed with hot water and soap and let dry. I cut them to fit my 2ftx2ftx4ft screen enclosure. The real limbs are much better than dowels. Some people strip the bark from the limbs and I have no clue why. Setting up a habitat/enclosure is fun. This is what I modeled my set up from.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-l_sP6ywM0L8/U17YTR7R7UI/AAAAAAAABk8/7JBQsxIjY3I/s1600/Daedalus+cage.jpg
 
I like real branches as vertical climbing structure. I have maple trees in my yard and have harvested a good a dozen or so. Washed with hot water and soap and let dry. I cut them to fit my 2ftx2ftx4ft screen enclosure. The real limbs are much better than dowels. Some people strip the bark from the limbs and I have no clue why. Setting up a habitat/enclosure is fun. This is what I modeled my set up from.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-l_sP6ywM0L8/U17YTR7R7UI/AAAAAAAABk8/7JBQsxIjY3I/s1600/Daedalus+cage.jpg

Your cage is nice!! How are you hanging the plants like that?
 
I modeled my cage after that one. i used 50lb fishing line to suspend the pothos by using a wooden dowel stretched alonge the top of the enclosure
 
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