Florida Veiled

[Dankmeleon]

hurricanes have nothing to do with annual weather I'm not trying to knock you, I'm from tampa bay as well, I'm just saying its more psychological than it seems, we go through periods of long draughts almost every year, and you know it


we just get the reputation that is rains all the time because in the spring it rains like a half hour every after noon for like 3 months and thats the season everyone comes to visit, but come septemper-march, i think you'll find it hardly rains and when it does its on rare occasion instead of constant, and yes it did rain today too and it was very windy and it also rained once last week, but it hadn't rained for almost 3 n a half weeks before that and if it did it was just a really short shower

point being...fla harsh high temps, harsh low temps in the winter...periods of draught in which most chameleons would die unless they got the water they needed from the dew on the morning plants and found some way to live near a body of water were he could stay some what moist

 

[Chase]

Hmm, thats interesting, they found a Jackson? My Aunt used to live in Miami/Dade area and she was going to catch one and send it too me. But they left and never really came back

 

[Chase]

hurricanes have nothing to do with annual weather I'm not trying to knock you, I'm from tampa bay as well, I'm just saying its more psychological than it seems, we go through periods of long draughts almost every year, and you know it


we just get the reputation that is rains all the time because in the spring it rains like a half hour every after noon for like 3 months and thats the season everyone comes to visit, but come septemper-march, i think you'll find it hardly rains and when it does its on rare occasion instead of constant, and yes it did rain today too and it was very windy and it also rained once last week, but it hadn't rained for almost 3 n a half weeks before that and if it did it was just a really short shower

point being...fla harsh high temps, harsh low temps in the winter...periods of draught in which most chameleons would die unless they got the water they needed from the dew on the morning plants and found some way to live near a body of water were he could stay some what moist

But if they lived in South Florida then they can be near water a lot.

 

[Dankmeleon]

I have never heard of a jackson being found, if it was it wouldn't surprise me, but the odds of it surviving winter are slim. It had more than likely recently escaped, but when i think back i think I heard a story of a clutch that hatched in the wild succesfully near the everglades of jacksons, strange

 

[Julirs]

I want to join the Florida people arguing about the climate conversation!

I have been here for 10 years. The first year it rained almost the entire year, collapsed my lanai. For the past several years, it hardly rains at all here. It rained the day I got my 2003 Anniversary Edition Harley(go figure). It rains when there are hurricanes passing though. But the rest of the time I sadly pay my $120 water bill to keep my pool full and my plants(not the yard-1 day a week restrictions) alive.
That said, I am taking a trip to see the wild Veileds this year, as soon as I poosibly can. The pet store next to work here gets them in all of the time and they are making the captive bred chams seem a little mild in comparison.

 

[lbesok]

Wow I would absolutely love to go check them out as well. It fascinates me that they exist here in FL

 

[Dankmeleon]

we should start an underground chameleon fighting league to see who really has the best genetics, I dunno how we'd account for the chameleons that refused to fight, thats where bulletin board material and good training comes in and oh yea, leaving your chams outdoors all year in the sun hahahahahah

there is something about natural sunlight that hypnotized chameleons into becoming cockdiesel

 

[Julirs]

Wow I would absolutely love to go check them out as well. It fascinates me that they exist here in FL

We could plan a "Field Trip"!
Seriously-I will make it publically known when I go-my Tahoe seats 8 somewhat comfortably!

 

[Justin Carl]

roadtrip! im in!

 

[Justin Carl]

the best time to go chameleon hunting is at night.
the light reflects off of them, makes them much easier to find.
not to mention they cant hide from you when they see you coming.

 

[Eric Adrignola]

Veileds the only ones tough enough to live in Florida? I think that's a bit off. In fact, I'd say Florida is probably an easier place to live (for them) than their native lands.

They're adaptable, that's for sure.

There's good evidence that jacksonii are living in florida. I know that there are populations of jacksonii in southern california. Hawaii has both.

I wouldn't be surprised if some other montane species would be able to survive in Florida, way up to southern Georgia. It freezes, but they can take that sometimes. They're adaptable - I'm sure they could adapt.

After all, plenty of things have. There have been people treated for mamba and king cobra bites in Florida in recent years - Wild bites. That's from the head of Miami Dade's Venom 1 unit.

 

[Dankmeleon]

has anyone heard of any exact locations, I'll catch veileds all day and sleep in a camo tent with anti snake spay and snake bite kits, cuz you know i'll get bit by like 3 poisonous snakes the first day. uhhhhhhh

 

[Julirs]

And while Mr. Dank is getting eaten by snakes, the rest of us can find a nice Hotel! These Veileds are not hanging out hundreds of miles from civilization!

 

[Dankmeleon]

where are they then?

 

[Dankmeleon]

Veileds the only ones tough enough to live in Florida? I think that's a bit off. In fact, I'd say Florida is probably an easier place to live (for them) than their native lands. thats rubbish I'm sorry, easier to live than there native land? We arent talking about there native land beind destroyed, we are talking about the conditiontions they have been living in for thousands of years, i was never saying they could not or do not, cuz I know they do from people that have let them escape

They're adaptable, that's for sure.

I wouldn't be surprised if some other montane species would be able to survive in Florida, way up to southern Georgia. It freezes, but they can take that sometimes. They're adaptable - I'm sure they could adapt.

no offense there could have maybe been a little bit wrong with my statement, perhaps there were others I didn't know about but everything about your statement was double wrong I garuntee you they can not live in north florida when it freezes because they can take it sometimes, do you know how hard cold rain is? that is why they don't massively populate and there arent way more on the market i would believe correct me if i'm wrong, they do well in small systems

 

[Julirs]

where are they then?

Google search-it is simple!

 

[Dankmeleon]

yea but how do you know you will go to that location and there will be veileds there, and you didn't just waste your time?

 

[Julirs]

Like I said, Pet store here has people that go and get them and bring them in. It's not a secret. As far as the complete exact location I would have to find out. There are thousands of them, collectors are collecting and selling. KS has had adds recently.

 

[Dean Pulcini]

Sounds like Madagascar all over again. I would be inclined to look but don't touch and let them establish themselves.

 

[PardalisGirl]

My two girls.........

I bought two female Veileds that were collected in Florida earlier this year. The oldest female just laid eggs last week. She is a beauty. Came in with very dark olive green coloring initially (I named her Olive). Her dark green color reminded me of a wild caught Basilisk female I used to have. Captive bred Basilisks never have that deep olive color. You only see it in wild caughts. Olive's color was the same way. Something I've never seen in captive bred Veileds. She arrived a little thin, but very solid bone and body structure. She is a total pig and gained weight nicely. She eats from my hand. She still has her gravid color so she must be working on a 2nd clutch. The other female is much younger. She is very shy. I hardly ever see her. She is still a bit thin. Both had parasites and had to go through the whole treatment thing. I got them from some guy on Kingsnake, can't remember name at this moment, who periodically has stuff advertised. He just went out one weekend and got a bunch of them.